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End Date For Stampless Usage In GB

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Posted 08/28/2022   7:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add azstampguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have seen some stampless covers from Great Britain with dates after May, 1840, which has surprised me.

It begs me to ask the question, when was the end of stampless covers in Great Britain?
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Posted 08/29/2022   01:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think we had a thread about this before. If I remember correctly, that was in the late 1850s.
But later unfranked or underpaid mail was subject to 'postage due.'
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Posted 08/29/2022   03:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Within the UK, stamps were compulsory from 1853, but I don't know the actual date.
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Posted 08/29/2022   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add azstampguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks ,creating a presentation for my stamp club and needed the date.
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Posted 08/29/2022   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Did some more digging.

Excluding London the date was 1 November 1851.

London was 1 August 1852.

For letters sent overseas I don't know, but I have an inwards cover to Sydney dated 1860 that was paid in cash.
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Posted 08/29/2022   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice work BDLR.
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Posted 08/30/2022   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add azstampguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks BDLR. Do you have the reference for that, I am getting kind of interested in GB postal history
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Posted 08/30/2022   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rod & azstampguy

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk is excellent for digging up information, but it's not free like Trove unfortunately.
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Posted 09/21/2022   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add azstampguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have started to go through some of my covers and found this Official Paid Inland Revenue cover from 1859 . No stamp though.
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Posted 09/21/2022   6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The clue is in 'Official.' Government mail did not require stamps. Postage was budgeted. Departmental stamps were not introduced until 1882.
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Edited by NSK - 09/21/2022 6:24 pm
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Posted 09/21/2022   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are any members able to suggest the word above "Devon"

An honorific ? A "house" name?

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Posted 09/21/2022   9:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod -

Looks to me like Uffculme, a village in Devon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uffculme

Nice cover,

Linus
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Posted 09/21/2022   10:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, Linus, take a bow.
Well done my man.
Never heard of it, yet 30km from my home town.

I was wondering if the writer was perhaps mildly literate
Beuford instead of Beaufort, a famous name in the West country
Perhaps not.

Uffculme : No Existant Postmark found in the database.

"GE" may be code for 7:25 hour of the clock, but no suffix A(M) or P(M)

Some Uffculme back story.

In the mid-1700s, the wool raised in the Blackdown Hills was prized by Dutch textile manufacturers. The Dutch factories generated clothing not only for Europeans, but for the many colonists headed to Pennsylvania, Virginia, and North Carolina on King George's ships. The Pearcy family appears to have been well-to-do, and to be well-to-do in Uffculme in the mid-1700s is essentially the same as saying the clan was engaged in shipping wool to the Netherlands. Young John, as a firstborn son and heir, would have been encouraged to gain direct expertise in the family trade, and probably spent an apprentice period going back and forth across the English Channel, either with his father or -- more likely -- with a captain who worked for Uffculme-area employers including the Pearcy clan. Young John, as a person of good family, would have advanced rapidly in authority until by his late teens, he might well have been been put in charge of a vessel and/or its cargo. It is reasonable to assume he subsequently became involved in more ambitious enterprises that resulted in him crossing the Atlantic. Once in Virginia, he decided to stay. Perhaps his father was dead by then. Perhaps he wanted to be out from under the thumb of his father. Maybe he just liked the idea of forging a life for himself in a new place rich with opportunity. He had enough of a nest egg by the age of twenty-one that he could marry and start a family -- no small thing in an era when men of the upper class usually required quite a bit more time than that before they were established enough to settle down.
http://davesmeds.malibulist.com/fam...ancestry.htm
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Edited by rod222 - 09/21/2022 11:08 pm
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Posted 09/22/2022   12:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Uffculme : No Existant Postmark found in the database.


Try searching eBay/stamps with "Uffculme" for examples of different postmarks.

More in the "sold" listings, too.

Linus
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Posted 09/22/2022   03:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Linus.
Learnt a new acronym, perhaps "UDC Cover"

"Un Dated Circle" Postmark (Receiving)?
or,..."UDC Office of posting" Urban District Centre?

Seems CULLOMPTON was the main centre, 8mins away
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Edited by rod222 - 09/22/2022 03:42 am
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Posted 09/22/2022   09:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Beuford instead of Beaufort

I had read the surname as "Benford"
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