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Posted 09/27/2022   4:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add gabriella77us to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I know that the Washington-Franklin coils are often faked, so I'd like a couple of opinions on whether this line pair is likely enough to be genuine that I should try to get it certified.

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Posted 09/27/2022   5:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the real McCoy to me, but it is hard to tell for sure. Your picture is too small to see if there is ink inside the perforation holes or not. There should not be any


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Posted 09/28/2022   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GMC89 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Greetings Gabriella
If you have a 3, 4 or 5 cent from this issue you can check the perfs by comparing.
The 2 cent 1910 coil is faked by perforating the imperforate 384, there are no sheet stamps that are perfed 8.5.
The cut edges should also be parallel.
If you want to certificate (paper) this pair, I would strongly recommend Mr. W T Crowe, an expertiser who also is a member here. His curricula vitae was on the web, where I found him, years ago, and is very impressive. Incredibly helpful/knowledgeable. Certificates were 20.00 for this issue, his turnaround is very quick.
Best of luck, cheers , mark

edit: I assume you checked and verified single line watermark.
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Edited by GMC89 - 09/28/2022 6:09 pm
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Posted 09/28/2022   6:10 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 'source' material for most all susceptible W/F coils is available here https://stampsmarter.org/1847usa/WFFakes.html
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Posted 09/30/2022   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gabriella77us to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your comments.

A little background: I am reorganizing my collection, preparing to sell or give away parts that do not interest me as much so that I can focus on the parts that are more interesting to me. Personally I would rather have more stamps that are face different instead of a group of stamps that I have to study with multiple devices to detect the differences.

Some of my Washington-Franklin coils I plan to group into lots for auction with notes for prospective bidders to study the scans for themselves. For example, one lot would include 2 each of unused singles that are probably #410 and #411, but I would rather let them go for a low bid than bother trying to get certs for them.

The line pair here, if I get a cert showing it to be genuine, I would then sell individually for closer to its market value.

I have several other stamps which I am considering having certified. Thanks for the recommendation for Mr. Crowe. It will be at least a few more days before I am ready to send anything to him.
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Posted 09/30/2022   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please post where you will have the W/Fs listed when you have them up for sale.
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Posted 10/01/2022   10:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since these coils were flat plate printed coils, these lines are due to the sheet cutting arrow guide lines.
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