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China Empire Unknown Imprints: Revenue Stamps?

 
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Posted 10/02/2022   10:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Cor to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I cannot find in my catalogue next imprints. Are they revenue stamps? Help is appreciated!

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Posted 10/02/2022   10:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Cor, have you looked under the Northern Provinces of China? And yes, they could be revenues


Peter
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Posted 10/02/2022   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ROC 1942
Scott 9N78 > 9N96

Ooops


Bottom 3 stamps
China
Japanese Occupation
Shanghai and Nanking
1943
Chung Hwa printings (No Wmk)

Stanley Gibbons 1969
SG#20 30c on 2c surch
SG#22 50c on 5c surch
SG#21 50c on 3c brown lake

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Edited by rod222 - 10/02/2022 11:56 am
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Top 4 stamps
Stanley Gibbons
1941 issue (new York)
section (d)
On type 77 (Scott type A59)
Numbers #95-98 respectively.

All min value 1969

Thanks for that, never seen these before except #96
I had that under Meng Chiang

Tip: A larger scan would have helped tremendously next time

PS: Not imprints, referred to as Surcharges, or surcharge opt.

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Thank you rod222, I know the upper row stamps without surcharge () are 1941 New York, but in my Michel catalogue the pictured surcharges are not mentioned at all. I can only find 1c/ 1/2c, 40c/50c (1941/43 Hunan- Guandon issue) and 20c/17c (1943 Hunan issue). So I would like to know what year and what issue the top row stamps are, and if the Michel catalogue has forgotten to mention them!
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Cor,
it wasn't easy
I spent some time tracking them down,
But now I have them locked away in my database.

One of the times I have to abandon Scott catalogue,
and defer to Gibbons.
(1969 part 3 America, Asia and Africa)

I usually go by Scott "type"
I can usually crack an ID in seconds,
but these there was absolutely nothing but the 40c Orange
with the SG number.

Not listed in Scott.
A HUGE list in Gibbons
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Posted 10/02/2022   1:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I posted a better picture of the bottom line stamps. Rod222, are you sure of your identification? Could it be they are in the Michel catalogue mentioned under Central China? But even then I see no clear reference.
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Posted 10/02/2022   8:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I posted a better picture of the bottom line stamps. Rod222, are you sure of your identification?


Hi Cor,
No
I am often wrong, that's how I move forward.

These can be confusing, but this is how I read it
The basic stamps are Dr Sun Yat Sen
Scott Type A57
Stanley Gibbons Type62 apologies Typo Type 72

The Surcharges on these, the FONT (FOUNT) indicates they are of CENT values

Thumbing through Scott, I came to the conclusion they were not listed.

In Gibbons this is what I found 1969 Page 147
Seems to fit?
Gibbons #415 #416 #418 are the basic stamps of you surcharges

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Edited by rod222 - 10/02/2022 11:41 pm
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Posted 10/03/2022   04:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cor to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perfect, thanx so much!
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