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Posted 11/20/2022   04:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Stephen-P to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Albeit with a crease and gunk at the bottom, but a 211b nonetheless!
The guides mark the distinguishing factor as the cross-hatching that fades away under the chin, but isn't it visible because of the quality of the strike rather than a design change?
Other areas such as the horizontal lines above the head are clearly separated and tight, rather than the gunky feel of a 210.

*Edit* The one on the right, and the first closeup picture is only for comparison.




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Posted 11/20/2022   05:28 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 11/20/2022   06:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As I recall, there are no known used 211B. You might want to check the PF certificates (www.philatelicfoundation.org) ... they have 5 used stamps that were submitted as 211B. All were determined to be 210. My point is that finding a used 211B is highly improbable. I am no expert, but I do know that many 210 are misidentified as 211B. In any case, if you become convinced that your stamp is indeed a 211B, please have it certified by one of the expertizing groups .... PF, PSE, PSAG, APEX.
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Posted 11/20/2022   07:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link!
Absolutely this is it. Not only in the details, but even the margins are a bit larger than the 210.
It's not near as elusive as it's 4c brother, but there were plenty of these made so it's not like a jackpot winner or anything.

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Posted 11/20/2022   07:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's only like a $200 stamp (if that bc of the faults), so I don't know if it's worth certifying?
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Posted 11/20/2022   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not a chance that the OP's stamp is a 211B.

This is a 211B. Note the crispness, clarity and separation of each line. Don't waste your money sending it the example in this thread in for a cert.

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Posted 11/20/2022   08:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's in mint condition. Of course it's crisp XD

The picture above is from philatelicfoundation.org, and looks way closer to what I see on Seigel's than the one you show here.
No offense. I know you know a lot more than me, just stating what is shown and why I even posted this here in the first place.
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Posted 11/20/2022   08:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stephen-P to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And that one seems to be faded, and kind of dull.
The 211b's I've looked at seem like old photographs more than a stamp. That picture just looks like a stamp.
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Posted 11/20/2022   08:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stephen - Do what you want. You are obviously treasure hunting. Be prepared for disappointment.
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This is not going to end well, so let's move on...
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