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Zum. 9 - Presumed Forgery, If So, Is It A Well Known Forger?

 
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Posted 11/29/2022   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add RuckusCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I recently picked up this letter with what would be a very rare stamp on it if it's real. I bought this for relatively little, presuming it was a forgery for a variety of reasons.
I know some people actually collect forgeries from some of the more famous forgers.
Just curious if people are familiar with this one?
My guess is someone took an old letter an affixed this stamp to it after the fact. Aside from the postmarks on the envelope appearing to be much later than would be expected (1856), and the extensions of the cancellation lines onto the envelope looking like they were added after the fact, is there something glaringly obvious about the stamp itself that stands out?
*Edit* I added a photo comparing it to an original for reference.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.




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Posted 11/29/2022   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RuckusCollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking at some originals on some auction sites, a lot of things are jumping out at me. The first was the black cross outline which these stamps didn't have. It's weird that a forger would make an obvious mistake like that but maybe they were also referencing the later Poste Locale stamps.
Lots of other give aways, like the font on the 4 and a bunch of the details, but a person would need to either be intimately familiar with the stamp design or have a reference with them if they stumbled on this in the wild and wanted to be confident about their purchase.
I find the whole forgery aspect of stamp collecting fascinating.
If anyone knows if a famous forger was behind this, would love to know.
Thanks
Kurt
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Posted 12/01/2022   09:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the original stamp was removed (partial vertical cancel lines under the forged stamp).Perhaps the original stamp was defective? Yes, a clumsy job at that...
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The glaring feature to me are the uneven background lines. If you are prowling out in the wild, then your phone is your reference. There are tiny differences in the 4c designs from stamp to stamp in the sheet of 100 but are essentially the same, unlike the 5c that had differences in the "5" when the printing stone for the 4c sheet was re-used.

Now I don't know Swiss covers of this period at all. But (La) Chaux-de-Fonds is/was in Neuchatel Canton (see also the corner card) that had its own stamp in 1850 and this design was issued by Vaud Canton. Interesting that a Neuchatel stamp could possibly have been on this cover originally(!!??). I've checked the Jäggli-Weber cancel book and can't find a match for the thin bars cancel on the cover (if genuine).

There are a lot of different forgeries of early Switzerland. It's too poor quality to be a Sperati. See the Frajola site: https://www.sperati.org/SPAindex.htm under "transitional" issues. The answer will probably be in Nationalmarken Schweiz, Echt - Falsch - Verfälscht by Richard Shäfer, with color photos.
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Posted 01/06/2023   02:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RuckusCollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the feedback about this. I've checked that site and maybe someday will pick up the book you mentioned.
My guess is that what was originally on this letter was a Strubel, based on the date, but I don't expect to ever know for sure.
It's certainly interesting to see counterfeits in action.
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