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French 1870 Ceres #42e (R.1)

 
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Posted 12/03/2022   12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add archiguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Could you please estimate this bad condition stamp (White spot on front is restored hole):French 1870 Ceres #42e (R.1)
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Posted 12/03/2022   12:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure what you mean by 'estimate' archiguy.

What catalogue number are you quoting?
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Posted 12/03/2022   01:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archiguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



Catalog Yver#42e
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Posted 12/03/2022   01:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that.

Still don't know what you mean by 'estimate'. The genuineness? The value?
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Posted 12/03/2022   01:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archiguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is expensive and Rare stamp : according Catalog. I am not knowing what real price of this stamp in no good condition as never collect French Ceres stamps. How this condition of stamp can decrease price of rare French stamp.
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Posted 12/03/2022   01:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The repair will reduce the value by as much as 90% in my opinion. Possibly more.

The scissor cut in the top margin, if the stamp were mine, would be tidied up.

It is a rather presentable example of the stamp so that does work in its favour.
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Edited by Bobby De La Rue - 12/03/2022 02:01 am
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Posted 12/03/2022   04:27 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm slightly confused. My Yvert lists 42A (Report 1) and 42B (Report 2). It only lists vert-jaune under 42A. 42B includes seven shades, including 42B e (vert tres fonce). Yours looks like report 2 to me (white line to rear of head), but I'm no expert.
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Posted 12/03/2022   05:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For new collectors or new readers here ------ This is a special stamp , it has a special place in Philatelic History .

I have a seperate album page in my French collection for such stamps .True it has a greatly reduce value ,most serious collectors would reject this stamp .

The original owner said it has been repaired --True ! But it is the hole in the center of the stamp that makes it special .

That damage stamp has a PIN HOLE in it !

That pin holes tells me it was up for sale in Paris at the Paris Bourse in 1860 's or 1880's , that is a mounting /display hole put there buy a seller on a display board .
Worthless ,close but I still collect them .
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Posted 12/03/2022   06:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This also looks like report 2 (Yt 42B) to me, of a typical shade, not vert tres fonce (extremely strong green). So CV of 165 Euros - good condition examples can be found on Delcampe for a wide range from $30-$100+ (depending on cancel rarity, shade, etc.).
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Posted 12/03/2022   07:44 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A couple of copies -


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Posted 12/03/2022   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Pinhole? I just see a large thin.
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Posted 12/03/2022   11:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If it was a thin, then a repair on the back makes sense . If it was a hole it could be filled in on the back and comes thru to the front . Not sure without having the stamp on my desk ,a scan is too trickey to call it for sure .
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Posted 12/04/2022   01:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add archiguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A stamp has a thin spot with a hole in the center of a spot therefore repaired on the back .
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