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Perfins Of What Company On This R169p 25 Cent Documentary Stamp

 
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Posted 12/24/2022   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Barg777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,

I have a question about the perfins on this US R169P 1898 25 cent Documentary stamp? Would anyone know the company that made such Perfins?





With respect, Barg

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Posted 12/30/2022   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You will have better luck contacting a moderator and having them move this to the back of book section. I know a couple of the Revenue folks pop in here but they mostly hang out over there.
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Posted 12/30/2022   09:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect most of us will be in the same boat. I know that I have seen it before, but I have no idea who used it.
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Posted 12/30/2022   11:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StateRevs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If memory serves, it is a soap company.

I will need to dig in the perfin guide for specifics...
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Posted 12/30/2022   12:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had perfume pop into my head when I saw it, but I don't know why.
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Posted 12/30/2022   5:03 pm  Show Profile Check ericjackson's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ericjackson to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It might be Imperial Soap Company of Boston, Mass. They had a printed cancel on the battleships that is very similar to this.

But I wasn't paying attention to the stamp. This is a Documentary stamp, used on a document and probably cancelled with this punch. It really needs to be found on the document for further identification.
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Posted 12/30/2022   5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have spent some time in the Revenue Perfin Catalog that was put together by the late Arthur Mongan. I do not believe that Art ever recorded this pattern. I agree that this will probably have to found intact on a document in order to positively identify the user. The 25 denomination suggests to me to look on a stock certificate.
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Posted 12/30/2022   6:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StateRevs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All,

Eric nailed what I was thinking of.


Quote:
Imperial Soap Company of Boston, Mass.


I was remembering a printed canx, not a perfin.



I also spent time going through Art's catalog and was unable to find this perfin canx.

The mystery continues!
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Posted 12/31/2022   08:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have four other printed cancellations by Imperial Soap Company of Boston that do not show either a date or the initials of the company. But I agree that the pattern of holes in the documentary stamp do not remind me of Imperial Soap Company.
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Posted 12/31/2022   08:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have four other printed cancellations by Imperial Soap Company of Boston that do not show either a date or the initials of the company. These patterns are well known to collectors of cancellations on the proprietary battleships.

I agree that the pattern of holes in the documentary battleship stamp do not remind me of Imperial Soap Company.
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Posted 01/01/2023   09:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



Here is the first of the Imperial Soap Company's cancels without company initials or date.




A second of the Imperial Soap Company's cancels without company initials or date.



A third of the Imperial Soap Company's cancels without company initials or date.



And finally a fourth of the Imperial Soap Company's cancels without company initials or date.
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Posted 01/01/2023   09:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Imperial Soap Company did originally use cancels with the company name.



They also used company initials.

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