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Posted 01/04/2023   08:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Hilik to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Please show the difference between [Meiji Granite Paper] and [Taisho Granite Paper] in your stamps.
Examples would be appreciated.
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Posted 01/04/2023   09:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
there are several posts here showing granite paper. Please try the "search" function on each page to get lots of examples


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Posted 01/04/2023   09:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hilik to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't want to see generic granite paper. I want to see the difference between [Meiji Granite Paper] and [Taisho Granite Paper]!!
*Specifically for Japanese revenue stamps.
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Edited by Hilik - 01/04/2023 09:36 am
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Posted 01/04/2023   7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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*Specifically for Japanese revenue stamps.


You didn't mention that, in your initial enquiry,
try to be more explicit !!

Offer an example of the stamps that would qualify
and we can see if we can assist.


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Posted 01/04/2023   7:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you asking for examples of the granite papers that were used during the respective periods? I'm not tracking on the question.
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Posted 01/05/2023   11:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hilik to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
in the 2019 Hasegawa catalog there is reference to those paper type stamps, but there is no sample. so how to distinguish between them?




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Also, some stamps are printed on decorated paper, but it is not mentioned in the catalog and I don't know how to call this paper type.










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Posted 01/05/2023   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Believe the last group you posted are Japanese postal savings stamps.

Believe the printing you see is referred to as "burlage".
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Posted 01/05/2023   12:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Calstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Correction: National Pension Fund. 1961 - 80.

Source: Narumi's Japanese Revenue Stamp Catalogue (2016
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Posted 01/05/2023   12:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Does the same design, denomination, color combination appear on both Meiji granite paper and Taisho granite paper?
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Extension to Calstamp's advice


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Also, some stamps are printed on decorated paper, but it is not mentioned in the catalog and I don't know how to call this paper type.


Referred to as BURELAGE or BURELE , if you will.
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I don't know how to call this paper type.


It is not a paper type, it is possibly called a "Security printing"


Hmmm, you may be correct.
I looked at the most famous example VENEZUELA, and "Winchester Security paper"

So Japan may be similar.
Sc#298 1930

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Japan General Revenues 1898
White Paper v Granite Paper

Download both scans
Then "Toggle" between the two images
You can see the red and blue lint, in the granite paper.

Or click to enlarge the granite paper image (2nd scan)

I shall assume the Taijo granite paper, to be similar in appearance.


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Edited by rod222 - 01/05/2023 5:51 pm
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Posted 01/06/2023   4:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hilik to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Referred to as BURELAGE or BURELE , if you will.

Thank you for that one.

Now, who can answer my first question please?
Is there a difference between Meiji Granite Paper and Taisho Granite Paper??
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Posted 01/06/2023   5:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There must be a difference, other than simple period of usage, because Hasegawa lists 'Meiji Granite Paper' for stamps issued in the Taisho period.

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Posted 01/10/2023   11:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomonakaazu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Hilik

Your featured scan on 01/05/2023 - it has some description about how they made paper, with some mixed bits when they make paper and when they started and so on. Maybe that will describe some nature? If you scan the ends better (I cannot read some ends), then I will translate.

Tomoko
p.s. by the way, did you see my translation for your earlier question on Japan Fiscal Stamps? http://goscf.com/t/82643
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Edited by tomonakaazu - 01/10/2023 11:46 am
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Posted 01/11/2023   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hilik to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Tomoko san.
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