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Posted 05/03/2023   07:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I always get a kick out of the lots that are more esoteric but attract the two bidders that have to have them.


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LOT 3559 Worldwide, Post Office Seals on Cover. Collection of approx. 200 covers including Canada, El Salvador, Great Britain, Hong Kong, India, Japan, New Zealand, Panama, South Africa, Trinidad, Uruguay, etc.; some mixed condition, F.-V.F. and interesting collection.
Estimate; $500 - 750.

SOLD for $3,250.00
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Posted 05/03/2023   1:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Without seeing the contents of that lot, it is hard to know if they just grossly underestimated the estimate of scarce/unique items, or if it was just multiple aggressive bidders who saw something they couldn't live without.

Here are a some other examples that caught my attention.


1303
Three Leaf Clover of Waterbury, Ct. Two complete sharp strikes on 1873, 1 ultramarine, horizontal pair, Very Fine and choice strikes, Rohloff rarity RRR - less than 9 examples known, with 1990 P.F. certificate. Scott Nos. 156.
Rohloff Nos. F-14;
Est. $200-300
SOLD for $4,250.00


1710
G.P. Office - Dead Letter. Clear strike of circular handstamp on 1818 Paymaster Generals Office free franked letter with light "Washn. City, Jan 4" cds and "Free" handstamp to Charleston S.C.; some light file fold toning, otherwise Very Fine, ex-Wegner. THE EARLIEST RECORDED DEAD LETTER OFFICE HANDSTAMP USE.
Est. $750-1,000
SOLD for $4,250.00


4011
1851 3 Issue Calendar. Mounted in calendar format, with each bearing a clear central date stamp for each of the 366 days of the year, including the elusive Feb 29th date (the year 1852 was leap year), each stamp hand-selected with the far majority showing a upright date with clear bold central date strikes the rule, many 4-margin examples throughout, includes a few dozen covers and additional "improvement" stamps, Very Fine and choice, a remarkable Complete 1851 3 Calendar and one of the finest we have ever offered. Scott No. 10-10A, 11-11A;
Estimate $1,000 - 1,500.
SOLD for $6,750.00


1702
"Hat & Bearded" Washington Manuscript of Nicholson, Pa. Manuscript embellishment cancel with matching "Nicholson, Pa., Mch 29, 1954" postmark on 1853, 3 Nesbitt entire to New York, Very Fine, a wonderful fancy "Quaker look" postmark. Scott Nos. U4;
Est. $200-300
SOLD for $1,300.00


and perhaps my favorite lot of the sale,

2271
Special Delivery, 1894, 10 blue, unwatermarked. Canceled by Boston Mass. Eagle & Thunderbolt machine cancel clearly showing the eagle, nicely centered, light creasing and tiny perf tear. Scott Nos. E4;
THE ONLY RECORDED STRIKE OF THIS CANCEL ON THE 1894 BUREAU 10 SPECIAL DELIVERY ISSUE.
The Boston Mass. machine cancel with Eagle and Thunderbolt was used only three hours on January 2, 1895. This is the only recorded strike on a special delivery issue on or off cover.
Estimate $500 - 750.
SOLD for $2,700.00

ob-topic: there were numerous other examples in the Collections section that drew many multiples of the estimates. I'll leave that exploration as an exercise for the reader.
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Posted 05/03/2023   2:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
More on that E4 with thunderbolt and eagle cancellation:


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The Eagle and Thunderbolt Cancel The Cancel from that Missing Cover
by Robert L. Markovits
Collector's Club Philatelist - March-April 2001
Somewhere out there in philatelic land is the cover from which was removed the finest cancellation ever to
strike a special delivery stamp. The Eagle and Thunderbolt cancel on the 1894 issue (Scott E4). This
cancellation was only used from 2:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. on January 2, 1895, in Boston as a test. As it turned out,
the Post office liked the flag but not the eagle cancel. Eight strikes are known, it is believed, three off-cover
(including this one) and five on cover. A proof impression has also been located. This is one of the great rarities
of machine cancellation philately.'
This stamp first appeared at a Robert A. Siegel, Inc. auction in New York City when I was a freshman in
college (1955-1956). At that time, gasoline was 19.9 cents. The estimate, as I recall, was $50 to $75, virtually
my semester's social budget. I had only shortly before met my philatelic mentor, Louis K. Robbins, a life
member of the Collectors Club and, among other things, a fellow special delivery of the world collector. Lou
acted as my auction agent and ran my bid of $100 to $125. Had I been in the room, I probably would have
fainted because of his audacity (now I realize it was fine judgment). The lot was lost to a $135 bid on the book,
with much more there I later was told.
Probably five years later, at a FLOREX show, I noted that fancy cancellation exhibit of Clyde Jennings, Jr., the
legendary philatelist, raconteur, and dear friend. I told him the story about my underbid and what it would have
meant if I had acquired the stamp at that time. By the way, the Siegel description listed the stamp as the 1895
issue, Scott E5. Clyde told me that "you are in luck." I just acquired a cover with that cancellation and so I am
willing to dispose of that stamp, if you would still like it. My heart skipped. He said "I paid $135 for it and that
is what I want from you for it, but don't sell it, enjoy it as a fine old treasure." I jumped at the chance, paid him
his money, thanked him, and of course followed his advice. This stamp remains one of the great gems of special
delivery philately and one of my key pieces, certainly one of my sentimental three key pieces. More on the
other two in my forthcoming book on United States Special Delivery material, the sequel to Henry M. Gobie's
The Speedy 1976, the copyright to which I own. This stamp is illustrated in my 1962 article in the Congress
Book and now graces these pages.


http://machinecancel.org/forum/eagle/eagle.html
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Posted 05/03/2023   2:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting story about the Eagle and Thunderbolt cancel , thanks to those who made this a interesting read ..
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Posted 05/03/2023   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What a great article, and a good example of the "I must have that at any cost" dilemma, with a happy/surprise ending. Thanks for posting.

One of the few benefits of a hall-of-famer "leaving the market" is that items that were once hoarded in a single collection can now be shared with a new batch of collectors. I was at the same time horrified and pleased that the Barlow collection of DLO cancels and seals was broken up into individual lots rather than being sold intact. There are now perhaps dozens of collectors (including myself) that can share a small part of that collection, but it will be a long time (if ever) before anyone else can rebuild such a great study of the topic.
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Posted 05/03/2023   8:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Prexie3c to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I always get a kick out of the lots that are more esoteric but attract the two bidders that have to have them.

LOT 3559 Worldwide, Post Office Seals on Cover. Collection of approx. 200 covers including Canada, El Salvador, Great Britain, Hong Kong, India, Japan, New Zealand, Panama, South Africa, Trinidad, Uruguay, etc.; some mixed condition, F.-V.F. and interesting collection.
Estimate; $500 - 750.

SOLD for $3,250.00



I think it is the same (well, almost) for the other non-US seal collection.


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LOT 3446 Mexico, Cerrado Y Sellado (Post Office Seals) Collection, 1885-2000's. With main exhibit collection housed on pages and cover & seal stock in stockbook; exhibit collection identifying the various seals including 1885 & 1899 tete-beches, shades, multiples, covers starting from the 1892 issue, a rare ca. 1889 Celaya seal tied on piece, 1896 with many couple cover usages, many later with */o examples as well as various covers, section of 1905-15 Department of Deal Letter Seals including 1905 proof and seven on cover usages, stock well filled with some slightly heavy duplication at times and dotted with various covers, also includes a collection of the sunburst registry seals; a nice collection for the specialist.
Estimate; $750 - 1,000. US$750-1,000

SOLD for $2,200.00



With only 1 picture for the worldwide seals and none for the Mexican seals, and at these prices, I would like to think that the bidders had viewed the material personally...
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Posted 05/04/2023   09:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Starting to see more collections coming up for auction ,where the cut-off point is the 1970's , I see more of the Scott Internationals are a 11 volume set or there about . The country collections are also cutting off there .

Now I wish Scott Catalog comes out with a series 1840 to 1970 and dumps all the post 1970 printing of volumes {My present set of catalogs sits on the floor like a 12 volume set ,there is no room on the bookcase to stand them up} . Maybe issue a catalog on CD for those who want 1971 and up . The up to 1970 can start to get more specialized . 4 or 5 volumes would be fine for me and the can sit on a desk {just a side note here ----for those like me, who use your catalogs often ,I turn the books around so the blank side faces me ,then I use a large black marking pen to write A-C or T-Z in large letters ,much easier to read while sitting at a desk , my date for the every day set is a 2015 set , the newer set sits on the floor too hard to read which volume is which} .
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Posted 05/04/2023   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NicholasC to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty sure it would be simple enough to create catalogs on demand that are broken up by a user defined era. I might even buy a set. It'd also be nice to eliminate the redundancy of information that is in each separate volume. Perhaps they fixed that already since I only set from 2012.
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Aside from a few more specialised catalogues, this is basically what I have. Gibbons Commonwealth catalogue published around 1980, Gibbons Europe from 1968, Gibbons rest of the world in four volumes from the early-'70s. Probably cost me two or three quid all in. You don't have the colour pics, but, for non-US, you probably have better info than is in Scott's A-Z catalogues.
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GeoffHa ---- Agree even a listing to 1980 is doable , I am watching how the major stamp auction firms handle how they list collections .

The Scott Catalogs are at their limit for keep adding up dated listings . 12 volumes stacked up next to my desk is too much . The only reason I bought them was ,I still believe Scott will be cutting off the hard copy printing somewhere in the near future
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The only reason I bought them was ,I still believe Scott will be cutting off the hard copy printing somewhere in the near future


Catalog queens need their hard copies.
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Posted 05/17/2023   11:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Surprised that nobody comment on the prices of good stamp hinges and the recent prices changes both wholesale and retail pricing .
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Surprised that nobody comment on the prices of good stamp hinges and the recent prices changes both wholesale and retail pricing .


floortrader,

I don't use hinges, finding them a fitting companion for good intentions along the road to hell. Plus the "good" ones have been ridiculously expensive since I got back into collecting five years ago.

Last time I paid attention they were going for $25 or so per pack of 1000. Do they cost even more now?

Dale
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Let's step back to what I posted on 03-04-2012 on this board .

"There will always be collectors willing to pay for easy removal hinges, so we can see prices going higher over the next few years. I just purchased a box of 50 packet lot off EBAY for just over $200.00 at $4.00 for a pack of 1,000 hinges ."

Now lets look at what happen this week at a stamp auction that box of 50 packs of hinges went for $850.00 with fees that is close to $1,000.00 for a box . Yes it sold at auction meaning wholesale if you buy in 50 packets per box .
First question you ask is if the buyer paid $22.00 per pack how much it sells for to the collector ? EBAY shows 32.00 to $40.00 WHAT!!! hinges at close to $40.00 for 1,000 hinges . Sure you can still buy those other hinges those they call "hinges of steel" from a German company
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