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No Question Is Too Stupid So I Ask About Booklet Stubs

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Posted 02/01/2023   5:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add gezadrummer1930 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
No question is too stupid so I ask...
Thant what my mom used to say, LOL

When you use all the stamps in a booklet ther is a "stub" left over. My dad was saving these, but then he was a hoarder. I assume I could do away with these, right? BTW nothing from the 20th or 19th century here. LOL

Thx, John
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Posted 02/01/2023   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PMStamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would certainly toss them. It's hard enough to sell a modern day booklet with all the stamps in it for anything more than face value, let alone one that only has the selvedge and no stamps.
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Posted 02/01/2023   5:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I assume I could do away with these, right?


Wrong.
Collect what you want, try not to be dictated to, excepting Philatelic husbandry issues.
Develop your own world in collecting, your collection should reflect yourself
If in doubt, store away, and you may have a change of opinion later.

Once gone, always gone.

I collect them.
They are part of Philatelic History, whatever you deem them to be as "collectable"

If you only collect for money, then toss them, burn them, and disregard anything I say.
I don't relate to those type of collectors.

Note the Antique Albums thread, how enjoyable to see the history
No one uses them (hardly) but they have been preserved.

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Edited by rod222 - 02/01/2023 5:27 pm
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Posted 02/01/2023   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with rodd that you should decide what you want to collect.

If you do not feel the urge to collect them, throwing them away would not be a great loss to philately. They, certainly, have no monetary value. Attached to a stamp, they might help identifying the source. Detached from the stamp, they, essentially, are at par with sheet margins.
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Posted 02/01/2023   9:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are booklet cover collectors.
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Posted 02/01/2023   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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There are booklet cover collectors.


That is news to me, I thought I was the only one
Good to hear.
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Posted 02/01/2023   10:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Every Stamp Booklet Stub tells a story"

Contemplation point:
"Collect for 100 years hence, not just now"




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Edited by rod222 - 02/01/2023 10:12 pm
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Posted 02/01/2023   11:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Everything is collected by someone, but the converse is not necessarily true.

You have mentioned in the past that you are a beginner, so I assume by "stub" you mean all the leftover packaging from a modern 21st century booklet, correct me if I am wrong (a picture would be helpful with these questions).
Scary as it may seem, these were literally within arm's reach of the computer, all given to me by well-meaning friends who know I wouldn't throw them out:
An assortment of empty older style cardboard booklet covers, although you likely don't have any/many of these since you say yours are newer than 2000


and an assortment of the current style resembling waxed paper.


The average stamp-user would discard them (or give them to friends!).
The average collector would likely throw them out too.
The deep specialist might save the empty packaging and mount examples with the stamps from the same issue to tell a more complete story and show the packaging at minimal cost by being empty. My eventual intent is to do that - to mount two copies of the empty booklet covers or waxed sheets to show both sides along with used examples of the stamps from them and other appropriate ephemera. Maybe next year!

Add: how nice the deck-card from the top of a pack of 100 panes, the backing paper from one pane, and an illustrated ad cover would look together on a page with some write-up!



One man's trash is another man's treasure!
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Edited by John Becker - 02/01/2023 11:50 pm
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Posted 02/01/2023   11:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add drkohler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's really simple:
a) Booklet pane with tab: It is a booklet pane.
b) Booklet pane without tab: It is a block of stamps.

Many booklet panes in the 15c to 32c area have markings on the tab. This makes for many varieties (which the Scott catalogie doesn't mention at all). Booklet specialist (like me..) try to collect all the different tab markings. So for us, panes without tabs are just postage.

So the short answer is: NEVER remove the tab/stub/whateveryouwanttocallit from a bookelt pane. It turns a booklet pane into postage.
Additionally to mention the image above this post: NEVER fold a flat pane into a booklet (although it may say "Peel here and Fold" on narrow strips). Again: Fold it -> Postage.
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Edited by drkohler - 02/01/2023 11:31 pm
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Posted 02/02/2023   01:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@drkohler


Quote:
It's really simple:
a) Booklet pane with tab: It is a booklet pane.
b) Booklet pane without tab: It is a block of stamps.


I do not think OP's was asking whether to remove stubs from stamps but rather whether stubs left after using the stamps were collectable.

Buy a booklet, use the stamps for what they were meant for and you are left with what you call 'tab' but is known as a 'stub' in philately.
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Posted 02/02/2023   7:51 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK - they might be know as stubs in other countries, but US booklet collectors call them tabs and drkkohler is one of the leading experts in US booklets
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Posted 02/02/2023   8:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Only the original poster can clarify, but I think some of you may be getting lost in the weeds of a beginner's terminology. Specifically, let's re-quote him, but change one bit to replace the word "stub":


Quote:
When you use all the stamps in a booklet there is a "remainder of the booklet" left over. My dad was saving these,


That is why my earlier reply dealt with booklet covers and the backing sheets, i.e. NO stamps.
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Posted 02/02/2023   8:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamps are gone. What is left is ephemera. Some people don't mind that.

I keep some weird stuff. I've sent some weird stuff to fellow collectors/accumulators.

I loved John Becker's post of ephemera piles close at hand. I can appreciate that.

Honestly, for almost anything U.S. in the last 50 years, the ephemera has a chance of being more interesting than the stamps. ("Almost." There is still some interesting stuff, and I certainly use it every day. To send mail. With stamps.)
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Posted 02/02/2023   9:42 pm  Show Profile Check johnsim03's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add johnsim03 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is a talented cover artist named Charlie Delgado (ACE #20) who has been known to use components of booklet covers (also professional baseball game tickets and other misc. things!) on his covers.

You can search on google or eBay to see some examples.

John
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Posted 02/02/2023   9:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was scanning as johnsim03 was posting. Indeed, on a simpler level, the scraps can make simple cachets for FDC's, especially when tied by the cancel:


Or some will try to use them illegally as postage.
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Posted 02/20/2023   8:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZebraMan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Everything is collected by someone ...


Related to booklet stubs or tabs etc, also there are these.


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