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Japan 1871 Stamp With X On The Right?

 
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Pshann
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Posted 02/12/2023   07:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Pshann to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all
Can anyone help identify the stamp with the "X"?



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Posted 02/12/2023   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do you mean to identify the stamp or the cancel ?
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floortrader
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The cancel would be a Bota cancelation . The stamp was issued in 1871 and the Bota cancels where used from 1874 to 1881 , your first brown stamp is upside down on that page and the last stamp is sideways .

I am not sure but it maybe a white cross or a cross roads design in Japanese it is called a Shirojviji /Shirojuiji .
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Cjd
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I claim no expertise, but that cancel on the last/bottom (right) stamp looks more like a Spiro cancel than anything, to me.

If we could get a nice, straight-on photo (or preferably, a scan), we might be able to positively i.d. it. Might as well rotate it 90 degrees when isolating it.
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rogdcam
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Posted 02/12/2023   3:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are all fake.

From The Spud Papers:


Quote:
Forged: There are only two lines forming the outer border, a thick one and a thin one. There are seven-and-a-half lozenges running across the top of the stamp inside the Etruscan border. The lozenges at the bottom are like the genuine, except that the last on the left is smaller than the rest. The tongues#8232;of both dragons touch the lozenges above them.


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https://japanstamps.org/2020/11/02/...x-of-issues/
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Pshann
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Posted 02/13/2023   12:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pshann to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone
Much appreciated
Looks like I have some reading to do.
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Just for fun
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Posted 02/14/2023   08:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just for fun to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The center one should be rotated by 180 degrees. The last one needs to be rotated 90 degrees to the left.
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Pshann
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Thanks all
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dandow
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These are all Wada forgeries. Except for the middle one, there are tiny black kanji flanking the bottom black central character (of the value). I can't read them, but they either say mozo or sanko, meaning "imitation". The middle one has similar kanji flanking the top black central character.
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