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Spain 50 Cts Orange And 1 Pta Purple Telegraph Stamps: Any Information On The Cancellations?

 
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Posted 02/19/2023   12:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add bmbmbm to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,

I was curious about the cancels on these telegraph stamps. Anyone have any information about the cancellations?

I realize the stamps themselves are low value stamps, but the cancels looked interesting, and caught by eye.
They don't look like the cancels I see on a lot of Spanish telegraph stamps. Usually, it seems like I see straight-line rubber cancels of a date.

50 cts. orange: looks like purple AGREDA hand stamp and hand-written date
1 pta. purple: looks like purple boxed MEDINA / ENLACE hand stamp with hand-written date

According to Wikipedia, Agreda is a Spanish municipality and town in the province of Soria. Population was 2852 in 1897, 3637 in 1981, 3084 in 2014.
With that low of population in 20th century, it seems like this mark might not be too common.

I'm unsure about MEDINA / ENLACE. Googling shows a Medina-Sidonia in southern Spain, but I also saw a result pulled from Quora that says "It's Spanish, from the Arabic word medinat, meaning city or specifically the old part of a city. Many cities retained the word Medina in their names after the Reconquista, like Medina del Campo, Medina de Rioseco or Medina Sidonia, among others."

Putting ENLACE into Google Translate seems to indicate it means "Link" or something similar?

Also, just curious, do people collect Spanish telegraphic cancellations? Is there a place to look them up?
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Posted 02/19/2023   01:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
(Play sounds of eerie music)

One of the strange occurrences at SCF
Posts and contents of posts go missing for some strange reason

There was a string of responses to this post (no longer a thread)
with a beautiful example of my "Cuidad de Guia" telegraph cancel
all gone missing.

"Cuidad de Guia" = Guia de Isora = South Western Coast of Tennerife.

http://goscf.com/t/8343 br /

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Edited by rod222 - 02/19/2023 02:15 am
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"Cuidad de Guia" = Guia de Isora = South Western Coast of Tennerife.


There is this town in the south of Tenerife.
There also is Santa María de Guía in the north of the neighbouring island of Gran Canaria.

The one on Gran Canaria calls itself Ciudad de Guía. Also, the name of the patron saint was added in the middle of the last century, having been called Villa de Guía and Guía.
The one on Tenerife started out as 'Isora.' It was then called Guía. In 1916, Guía de Isora became its official name.

I think the chances are that 'Ciudad de Guía' is the one on Gran Canaria.

The odds are very

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Edited by NSK - 02/19/2023 03:02 am
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The one on Gran Canaria calls itself Ciudad de Guía


Thanks. Adopted.

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Edited by rod222 - 02/19/2023 02:14 am
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MEDINA / ENLACE


The enlaces were places where copper telegraph lines intersected. This, primarily was a system linked to the railways. Medina del Campo in Valladolid has a long history as railway junction. There is a very good chance 'Medina enlace' is the interchange office at Medina del Campo.


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Este sistema en cierta manera es la versión eléctrica del telégrafo óptico de Betancourt-Bréguet, sustituyendo el enlace óptico por un enlace de hilos de cobre, y fue muy utilizado en los ferrocarriles. En España se estuvo utilizando hasta 1935-1936 en los ferrocarriles españoles.


Incidentally, the town of Medina del Campo was the centre of the old visual (smoke signals) Spanish telegraphs network.


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Por el sistema de las ahumadas se constituyó una importante red de comunicaciones en España, que enlazaba las principales ciudades del reino. Parece ser, a tenor de las investigaciones históricas, que hubieron unos cinco intinerarios generales que formaban una red que iba desde León hasta Sevilla, pasando por Valladolid y Zaragoza. El "centro de comunicaciones" estaba en Medina del Campo (Valladolid).


https://www.ea1uro.com/eb3emd/Teleg...fia_hist.htm
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Edited by NSK - 02/19/2023 02:19 am
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Putting ENLACE into Google Translate seems to indicate it means "Link" or something similar?


Yes. Connection would be a translation that explains it.
If you have a connecting train, that would be called 'enlace.'
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Posted 02/19/2023   10:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good stuff.
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