Magyar Posts Filler Query

Hi all
These opt's - what's this all about?
I can't read the writing on the first stamp
Appreciate any help

Thank you
Can you identify the words behind the overprint?

Sorry I deleted my post by mistake.
The words are "Magyar Tanacs Kaztarsasag" (Republic of Councils in Hungary,or Hungarian Soviet Republic)

No problem
And the over print ?
I haven't seen this before.

I'm betting Russia - but just a guess!

Michel # 271


And Michel # 297 (with sheaf and 1919 overprint)


Nothing russian here

Well done
Thank you

What made you think so? Curios.

Pshann,
And more broadly than classic_paper's question. What is your method for ID'ing a stamp like this? What catalogs or internet resources are you using?

I collect Hungary and I am missing a few, but they are not rare stamps, they are normal and simple, there are too many.

Curios
Thank you for your help.
Replying to question
If you look at the first post ( green stamp) the printing of the word "magyar" just didn't look right - as such I took a guess - it looked Russian to me !
My eyesight is woeful (especially at night) but I was comforted to see Rod222's final post.
Maybe this green stamp was created in the 100 day period of the Hungarian Soviet Republic?
I don't know but it is an interesting question if I'm right about the words on the green Magyar 5
Appreciate your help.

Roberto --- Nice pages ,agree some are not expensive but hard to find .

This area of Hungarian Philately about the overprints is still uncertain even between the experts in Hungary . There has been a number of articles written about the semantics of these three categories : the occupation, these are local and are they the Successor State.

The two main catalogs from Hungary even today don't agree on the classfications . So we as overseas collectors will never to able to settle this issue

Thank you for the information.
Much appreciated