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Posted 03/05/2023   7:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Surprised nobody asked you to check the reverse ,to see if there are any markings in the back corners .the kind a small rubber stamp would make .
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Posted 03/05/2023   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Surprised nobody asked you to check the reverse ,to see if there are any markings in the back corners .the kind a small rubber stamp would make .


Strictly speaking, this was your third post in this thread...



I too would like to see page 2.
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Posted 03/05/2023   9:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the mark on the back that you would be looking for:

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Posted 03/05/2023   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
eew...does it have to have the toning? Gross.
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Posted 03/06/2023   01:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Surprised nobody asked you to check the reverse ,to see if there are any markings in the back corners .the kind a small rubber stamp would make .


Credit where credit is due, rogdcam, implicitly, did.


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His certificates can be found in auction lots in past Harmer and Cherrystone sales. Most of the time he appears to have backstamped the stamps he expertized.
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Posted 03/06/2023   07:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry ,I don't get into discussions about JERKING around the English language,not my native tongue .

I thought someone would compliment me on putting a beautiful set from my collection on this board ......but then again sometimes my hopes are over blown .

I guess I should stay in my lane with the other Lickem-and -Stickem collectors and not step on the Catalog Queens and Google Masters who want to prove they are "Want-to-be-Experts "

Sorry I got in front of your expertise ,Don can beat me up for that . As for me I will find some 20 or 30 year old this morning who thinks he can rag around a 73 year old in a fight on the mat in Jiu-Jitsu today to really let loose .
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Posted 03/06/2023   07:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 03/25/2023   12:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gezadrummer1930 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I was sidetracked a while. So, being new I only partly get all the discussion. From what I gather it seems the cert could be related to those stamps pictured but can't be confirmed. Assuming they are related does that make these stamps worth anything monetarily?
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Posted 03/25/2023   1:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@gezadrummer1930,

1. The certificate appears to relate to the stamps.
2. You have shown only part of the set. Do you have the remainder? There are stamps in different sizes. Floortrader showed the full set on the first page.
3. The value is in the stamps with values in the lower left corner that have the letters RM (Reichsmark) after the number.
4. Look on the back of the stamps. Do they have a small stamp like the one rogdcam depicted above.

If 2 and 4 are "yes," you might have something nice.
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Posted 03/25/2023   1:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gezadrummer1930 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So yes, I have a set of both sizes complete (23 total), and on the back of all of them except one has a logo and the certificate number. Here is what I don't get, all the ones with the certificate number have original gum but the one that does't has no gum. The cert says 23 were certified and I can only guess one got lost or damaged and was then replaced with a MNG "imposter". He was so careful and to have one poof. Sad! So what does that so to the value of the set? Is the set worth enough to get a cert for either the one or all recertified? What are they worth as is versus 22 of 23 is the big question!
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Posted 03/25/2023   2:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Consider some stamps have value, others have little value.

Then read your post as if you are one of us and ask yourself whether you provided any information that might be helpful to answer your question.
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Edited by NSK - 03/25/2023 2:14 pm
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Posted 03/25/2023   3:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gezadrummer1930 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So NSK asked:
1. The certificate appears to relate to the stamps.
2. You have shown only part of the set. Do you have the remainder? There are stamps in different sizes. Floortrader showed the full set on the first page.
3. The value is in the stamps with values in the lower left corner that have the letters RM (Reichsmark) after the number.
4. Look on the back of the stamps. Do they have a small stamp like the one rogdcam depicted above.

If 2 and 4 are "yes," you might have something nice.



To which I answered his question to the best of my ability.

To which he replies, to me, a self-proclaimed beginner, looking down his nose at me and comments that if 'I was one of you...' HOW RUDE!

I have no idea what else he might think I could provide, but I'm a beginner, and I know it! If I were an expert I would be here guiding and enlightening new people in hopes of reinvigorating this dying breed of stamp collecting. I certainly would not belittle people!

He said if 2+4 were yes I would have something nice. I described what I found out and he gets snooty. After looking back I have a full set of the 23 they certified but apparently there may be more in a complete set. And funny for a "know it all", he never asked about the stamp on the back, I backread that from Floor trader who seems much more helpful and is truly trying to help which is why I added that info.

Maybe someone else can help me since while he may be knowledgeable, he is not capable of doing anything but being rude and condescending. The rest of you folks are COOL.


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Edited by gezadrummer1930 - 03/25/2023 3:12 pm
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Posted 03/25/2023   3:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No you cry-baby, I told you to have a look at your reply.

You say one stamp has no gum. You do not say which. After I told you where the value is.
Basically, Floortrader showed what you should have, rogdcam wrote what you should look for, and gmot showed you where the value is.
You replied that you are a beginner and do not understand all.
I wrote you exactly what information people have given you and what you could do with it.
You then write about A stamp without gum and ask about the consequences.
After having been pointed at where the value is twice, you still keep us guessing at what exactly you have.

So, in order you learn and do not make it a fishing expedition for others, I suggest you read your own post and consider whether you are providing relevant information

Being new at this does not mean you do can keep hiding behind that and ignore what people respond - talk about rude -.

So, once again, and I gave you a very big hint at what information you are not providing, do you think your post helps us in telling you what 'damage' is caused by an unknown stamp from the set not having gum when the value is in certain stamps.
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Edited by NSK - 03/25/2023 3:28 pm
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Posted 03/25/2023   4:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gezadrummer1930 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I answered all the questions.

But Ok lets break it down: your questions in lower case my answer in UPPER and not I am not yelling, I am just differentiating my comments from yours.

So NSK asked:
1. The certificate appears to relate to the stamps.
A STATEMENT, BUT NOT A QUESTION. URNS OUT THEY ARE AND I SAID SO
2. You have shown only part of the set. Do you have the remainder? There are stamps in different sizes. Floortrader showed the full set on the first page.
I ANSWERED YES I HAVE A COMPLETE SET WITH A CONDITION OF ONE WITH NO GUM.
3. The value is in the stamps with values in the lower left corner that have the letters RM (Reichsmark) after the number.
THIS IS NOT A QUESTION IT IS A STATEMENT WHICH EVEN A BEGINNER KNOWS THE VALUE IS THE NUMBER. I HAD NO IDEA WHY YOU PUT THIS IN.
4. Look on the back of the stamps. Do they have a small stamp like the one rogdcam depicted above.
I SAID YES ALL BUT ONE AND THAT THE SAME NUMBER ON THE CERT IS ON ALL BUT ONE STAMP

If 2 and 4 are "yes," you might have something nice.

CONTINUING:
You say one stamp has no gum. You do not say which. After I told you where the value is. NO, YOU TOLD ME WHERE THE VALUE WAS **BEFORE** I SAID 1 STAMP HAD NO GUM. SO HOW WOULD I KNOW WHY YOU SAID THAT. NOT A MIND READER HERE.

After having been pointed at where the value is twice, you still keep us guessing at what exactly you have. NO, YOU MADE A STATEMENT ONE (NOT TWICE) BUT GAVE NO REASON WHY YOU WERE SAYING IT, YOU HAD NO IDEA I HAD ONE WITH NO GUM AT THAT POINT

So, in order you learn and do not make it a fishing expedition for others, I suggest you read your own post and consider whether you are providing relevant information. 1) I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW SO I CAN'T BE KNOWING WHAT IT IS I SHOULD BE TELLING YOU BEFORE YOU ASK. 2) IF YOU ONLY WANT TO DEAL WITH THOSE WHO READ YOUR MIND THEN STOP HELPING. I AM SURE THERE ARE PLENTY OF KIND HELPFUL PEOPLE OUT THERE. AND MAYBE YOUR A REALLY INTELLIGENT PERSON BUT YOU SURE ARE NOT VERY GOOD AT HELPING MENTOR PEOPLE.

AND: No you cry-baby, GROW UP DUDE AND GET OF YOU HIGH HORSE. I SAID YOU WERE RUDE BECAUSE YOU WERE AND YOU CERTAINLY KNOW HOW TO PROVE IT!

SO PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR AND DONT REPLY, THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO ME.

So at this point if someone else could chime in I woild like to hear a freindly comment from someone else who isn't NSK (and if it matters which one was not gummed it was the 24 which I highly doubt it matters which, and if im wrong I will be ever so humbled, but would like to be mentored in why that would be the case.




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Posted 03/25/2023   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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AND: No you cry-baby, GROW UP DUDE AND GET OF YOU HIGH HORSE. I SAID YOU WERE RUDE BECAUSE YOU WERE AND YOU CERTAINLY KNOW HOW TO PROVE IT!

"off"
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