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Help Identifying Imperf Washington-Franklin

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Posted 04/21/2023   10:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Thus advice to collectors of all levels ... don't skimp on the literature. Regularly set aside a portion of your stamp budget for buying information. It will pay for itself quickly by identifying bargains to snap-up and pitfalls to avoid.


Excellent advice. I might add that it is not even so much about identifying less common varieties but identifying the basic issues correctly in the first place. Kind of THE fundamental of stamp collecting. What do I have?
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Posted 04/21/2023   10:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The four for studying W/F are "The Expert's Book" and "How to Detect Damaged, Altered, and Repaired Stamps" both by Paul W. Schmid, Volume one of United States Postage Stamps of the 20th Century by Johl, and the Micarelli book mentioned above.
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Edited by revcollector - 04/21/2023 10:40 pm
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Posted 04/22/2023   12:03 am  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rev, IMO, even better than the Schmid book, is Martin A. Armstrong's "Washington Franklins 1908-21".

Either will give the student what they need to know, however IMO, Armstrong's book is laid out so well, it almost reads like a novel. You can actually read this book, and it offers a couple of unanswered questions (6c coil that was printed, but has never been found). This book is also out of print, and very difficult to find.

Hope this helps, Ray
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Posted 04/22/2023   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One way to address this issue is to amend the forum rules to ask users to use "Id Service:" at the start of the topic subject line when they want a free ID and don't want to learn or hear about identification resources. Many of these threads go sideways because the OP just wants a free ID. Other users would be free to answer, or not, and read, or not, and there would be no guessing about the scope of the thread.
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Posted 04/22/2023   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ray.mac- Yes, that is very good as well.
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Posted 04/22/2023   12:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So, to the original question, what is it, we await watermark confirmation.
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Posted 04/24/2023   11:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redjack to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This website has been very helpful for me! It also has identification for other stamps if you go to the Home page.
https://www.theswedishtiger.com/imp...-stamps.html
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Posted 05/31/2023   3:33 pm  Show Profile Check Uknjay's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Uknjay to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is good stuff. I to have had my problem in identifying Washington/ Frankland stamps. The small differences in types make you have to thing and investigate referring to reference books. I think it is the hardest set to make and complete of any US Stamps.
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Posted 05/31/2023   7:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Al E. Gator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've been a Washington/Franklin collector for around 25 years. It gets easier over time but you do need good reference sources and some good reference copies to really learn them. I agree with rogdcam, by appearance its most likely 482.
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Posted 06/01/2023   10:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Walkman82 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rogdcam, apologies as I just saw your post awaiting watermark confirmation. As I stated in an earlier response, it is unwatermarked. Thanks to you and Al E. Gator for identifying it as a 482. I appreciate both of you for taking the time to figure this out!

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Posted 06/01/2023   10:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the conclusions of this thread. The pair was going to be either 409 or 482 depending on the watermark testing.

On a tangent to identifying the other types, and as opposed to buying the literature, which some consider pricey, or is challenging to locate, here is a example lot currently on ebay, which would provide an ID'd set of the offset printings to use as a reference guide. And it's almost always better to use actual stamps for comparisons than the illustrations in the catalogs.

The link to the listing is:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/225589289520
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Edited by John Becker - 06/01/2023 10:42 am
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