US 1907 SC 330 Re-Entry Top Left Ribbons

Good Evening Again,

Just another re-entry stamp for your viewing pleasure. This time the stamp is a U.S. 1907 Scott Catalogue #330 where the re-entry is located in the top left ribbons.

Please keep on topic - Thanks!

FULL STAMP


UPPER LEFT RIBBONS

These are fairly common. The difficult one to find is the left side of the right shield behind the numeral.

Please show a second example or previously published report to prove a constant variety and not inking issue. As you are dealing with US stamp(s) try to learn and US nomenclature and terms of art.

Abraham Maslow wrote in 1966, "If the only tool you have is a hammer, it is tempting to treat everything as if it were a nail." It appears you, souldjer777, have replaced the hammer with "re-entry."

Please refer to your thread here: http://goscf.com/t/84126#776950 and review the constructive educational comments provided to you there on the subject.

If you plan to keep listing these as you find them, why not just start on thread with the title of "souldjer777's Re-entries. Then just keep adding them to that thread as you find them. All will be in one place and with proper terms to identify the stamps, stamps will be searchable in the SCF.

There are a few different of this type of DT, they are well known. I have seen a number of similar examples. The French book discusses them, although he did not know specific positions.

Yes, but the OP doesn't own the book and will not reference the book. He has been told to get the book. If he does then he can post with authority and no speculation by referencing the French number for the item. Otherwise he is just tossing stuff on the wall to see what sticks "for entertainment." And given comments in other threads his hoped for monetary gain.

Yes but the French book is not easy to get unless one is willing to spend over $100 to get it.

I ordered the book from Amazon but if I find a re-entry on a stamp - you can bet I'm posting it - reference or no reference. It's so I can get eyes on the stamp and assistance. Revcollector has been giving me plenty of support and I appreciate the help.

I might suggest, as one other has tried, that you start a single thread and post all of your re-entries in one place so that you can see all of the comments together. Title it something like "My Re-Entries" or something like that. Post one picture, with the pertinent identifying information (Scott 1234) and then people can comment about Scott 1234 in subsequent postings in the same thread. Just my thoughts.

souldjer777,
To clarify a couple of points which may not have been stated clearly or strongly:

1. Terminology: Many collectors, authors, and catalogs differentiate between "double transfer" and "reentry". In your recent threads, you will note that your posts are very consistent with the use of the term "re-entry", while most of the responders use "double transfer". I would be interested (without anyone else responding first) to know how *you* define each term and the similarity or difference between the two terms. Is there a reason why you use one term instead of the other?

2. The general standard for a "recognized double transfer" (note I use the term double transfer also), is to have located a confirming copy to illustrate the same flaw and disprove it as a printing freak/oddity.

I thought about doing just that - posting a single topic and listing all my stamps there. I'll use double transfer if you like - all the same to me.

Please don't switch terms to please anyone else without figuring out the nuances of the two terms for yourself.

John Becker, as the OP replied, I will now post these for from a different "re-entry" thread he started.








So the OP likes the website and I, as a long term philatelist, fully appreciates the website as well. But, its nomenclature/terms of art do not match what has been and continues to be in use in the USA.

All that said, with the potential quality of imagining that can be done today to show the often minute specks and lines is eyeopening. Even here on the SCF where images are limited to 300 KB.

The website, while award winning in the global philatelic community, was established within the general sphere British Commonwealth and focused in the same philatelic arena. While the site is good and informative the point of view is commonwealth, not USA terms.

It has been suggested at least twice to the OP to contain all his examples to one thread after asking the moderator to combine the current (5 or 6 threads together NOT the Martha Thread). That was helpful and educational comments need not be repeated nor overlooked by one reviewing only one or some of his threads. Edit: Take a look here, souldjer777 http://goscf.com/t/54858&whichpage=1 SCF member Partime did one thread for his "Australian Oddities" which now runs 36 pages!

Now it would be beneficial for a similar website for USA stamps using USA terminology. However with the seemingly reduced interest in plate varieties in the USA compared to the British sphere, I don't see that happening. I can just imagine what Cloudy would have built as part of the BIA/USSS web presence. So much easier than publishing a book. Perhaps when the copyright runs out or the current owner so chooses the book could be digitized.

I hope (trust?) based upon the effort the OP has made learning from the website, that he will equally learn the USA terms once French's book is received by him. I wish you well in that endeavor souldjer777.

Edit, one strikeout and replacement as well as some punctuation.

Here's what Loran C. French had to say on this stamp.
Page #331
#330- 5c blue
Positions unknown
1) downward DT in t. and b. labels and above bottom frame. JP JC
2) small ST of numerals and vertical lines of shields. --
Note: There are several STs in the ribbons and numerals, usually at the r. side, rarely at the l. SH9,39,JC

Known Positions
3554--B P/1 ST of ribbon bearing FOUNDING OF and l. shield. HHW, USS 10/67, sl 11-12/70

3561--?-- three colorless dots adjoining P of POSTAGE, F of FIVE, and C of CENTS

The bold are reference codes ( as printed) of the reporters.

And a signed copy to boot?

My copy is also signed, and inscribed to one of the great philatelists, Barbara Muller.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_R._Mueller

That is the beast, enjoy.

As to inscriptions, for some works, they are not uncommon, for some they are difficult and in some cases finding a copy not inscribed is rare. For French I am 50-50 one signed, one not.

For example, I have, for one title a book which belonged to a former APS president, one excessed from the Library of Congress, various personalized inscriptions and just an autograph, plus just one, clean unsigned copy. I guess Henry missed that one.

Now what would be fun is a full run of the 20th Century books by Johl, signed by Max Johl, not that makes the information any more relevant, it is because he was a relative in my stamp collecting and philatelic family.

Edit for "ing" somewhere above.