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Kansas Nebraska Overprints Of 1929 With Missing Period

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Posted 05/14/2023   6:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The most comprehensive writing on the topic of counterfeit Kansas-Nebraska overprints:

http://pascackstampclub.weebly.com/...erprints.pdf

One takeaway:


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The most important thing to remember is that when
these stamps were overprinted, they were not yet
gummed. The manufacture of the stamps occurred in
this order: The stamps were printed, then overprinted,
then gummed, and then perforated. Had the stamps
been overprinted after gumming, they would have had
an indentation in the gum leaving an "embossed"
affect, but the genuine stamps do not have that condition.

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Posted 05/14/2023   7:00 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Genuine overprints have gum with only one gum breaker and striated ridges.


OR two widely spaced gum breaker ridges near the very top and bottom of the stamp
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Posted 05/14/2023   7:28 pm  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So scott 669b is for the stamp that shows no ink where the period is to be but can have an impression? or is there another type of missing period where the plate was defective? Or does scott 669b include both scenarios in that listing?
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Posted 05/14/2023   7:39 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Info/images for US gum breakers
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/M...reakers.html

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Posted 05/14/2023   7:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again, these overprints were surface printed, just like pre-cancels. There is no "impression".
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Posted 05/14/2023   7:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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OR two widely spaced gum breaker ridges near the very top and bottom of the stamp


Painting with a broad brush.

Details of some exceptions was not include by design. So if you are going to add details, do just stop there, add all the details for the differences between the correct base stamp to be overprinted. There are many such as no straight edge and only certain plate numbers were used and, and.....

As to indentation on mint stamps with full gum, there will be no indication in the gum as the gum was applied after the overprint but some pressure was applied to the paper when the overprint was added. No you are not going to see paper dents as found with engraved stamps.

Frankly anyone buying a K-N OP needs a cert to be sure of their purchase, but that is nonsensical due to the price for some of the stamps, less so for used. This is becoming true for almost any overprinted stamp today for example there is a huge number of so-called Darrah Shanghai Overprints regularly coming out of Romania.
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Posted 05/14/2023   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And the shades of the K-S overprinted stamps are generally paler and less bright then those issued later. BTW, the remains of the gum breakers can often be seen on used stamps by holding them reversed at an oblique angle to a light. They did mark the paper, and those shadows can often be seen.
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Posted 05/15/2023   12:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Did anyone read the link.
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Posted 05/31/2023   3:24 pm  Show Profile Check Uknjay's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Uknjay to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting discussion here. You can have a have a blockage that would prevent an impression. In this case I would think an underinking is more the cause of this missing period. If a damaged plate I would think a crack line or something would be present. It may have never been there if the transfer was not completed on that stamp impression. I do not think a press team member would have noticed a missing dot. If so it was so small of an imperfection it was let threw. In any case it let the hobby a nice error to add to your collection.
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Posted 05/31/2023   3:38 pm  Show Profile Check 3193zd's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 3193zd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi thanks for your reply. This stamp is listed in Scotts and all I am trying to find is what do they attribute the missing period error to? damaged plate? under inking? plate blockage? or all of the above?
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