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Finland Variety On The 40 Pen

 
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Posted 05/15/2023   04:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add antoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello


The FACIT special 2013 catalog gives a single variety (erected as type) for stamp N9. The one in the picture would be type I (closed crown ring below to the right, unclear details).
But there are other varieties, for example in the picture the broken left parenthesis.
Do you know if there is information about the varieties of Finnish classic stamps, either on the internet or in books.
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Posted 05/15/2023   07:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"There are other varieties " Yes there are, this is called in English ----- FLY SPECKING .

Anybody looking at older stamps ,even some modern stamps can find errors ,faults and minor difference if they have a stronger enough glass to see all the minor details .

I have seen many collections over the years with nicely made album pages showing a lot of minor details with drawings or little color arrows point out these faults but it comes down to very little financial reward for the seller .
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Posted 05/16/2023   2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't seen any detailed references on these issues, but it may be that they are all in Finnish... There are certainly varieties, but then there are also likely print quality issues with them as well. Your roulette is type II. My example of that type (https://billsey.seymourfamily.com/F...page002.htm) also has the artifact on the right side of the crown, but not the one at lower left.
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Posted 05/16/2023   6:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OP, check with Jay Smith and Associates in Snow Camp, NC on line. Jays told me there are some specialty publications for early Finnish stamps but they tend to target one or another particular issue.
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Posted 05/17/2023   03:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add antoin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't agree, for me it's a type I.
Here is a 40 pen type II



The Facit catalog shows very clear drawings of the 2 types:


But the reality is more hazy.
according to Facit
Type I : Closed crown ring below to the right, unclears detail (the image show that it isnot completely closed)
Type II : Open crown ring, clear details
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Posted 05/17/2023   03:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@billsey, your link returns a "FILE OR DIRECTORY NOT FOUND" error.
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Edited by NSK - 05/17/2023 03:51 am
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Posted 05/17/2023   10:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NSK, see if the link in your address bar has a ) at the end. Mine did, and after deleting it, the link worked.
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Posted 05/17/2023   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That solves it.
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Posted 05/20/2023   7:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, and I'm not allowed to edit the message to fix that. For some reason the board decided that the URL needed my next character in order to be complete. :(
Here is my roulette type I

Roulette type II

And roulette type III

Although in looking at those images the second one might also be a type I...
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Posted 05/20/2023   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I'm not allowed to edit the message to fix that. For some reason the board decided that the URL


First you have only 24 hours to edit a post.**

Second and it is hard to tell but you look like you posted " (URL) " when the correct method is " ( URL ) " with a space between the first "(" and start of the URL and a space between the last of the URL and the last ")" of the text. Other wise just add a space enter URL and follow with a space. URL should display properly.

** Now use the "send note to staff" link and tell the staff member the correct URL and ask that they as moderator make the needed correction. Yours is not the first nor will be the last such request.
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