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Posted 06/05/2023   1:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add AxmxZ to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this 25c Grosbeak - it seems to glow red under UV. is that how the untagged variety looks or some variety not listed in my 2021 Scott Specialized?

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Posted 06/05/2023   1:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Axmx, you can find a tagging listing in Stampsmarter.org. It sometimes shows varieties that are not found in Scott


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Posted 06/05/2023   1:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AxmxZ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Petert4522, thank you for the pointer, but stampsmarter has the following info:

Tagging Overall
TaggingColor
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Posted 06/05/2023   1:47 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
https://stampsmarter.org/features/TaggingView.html
Then lookup by catalog number.

I see that the database does not show any additional varieties, but Mark (Tagging Admin) often checks the forum here and should reply to this thread.
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Posted 06/05/2023   1:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AxmxZ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
51studebaker, can you send me a screenshot or a link to the thing you guys seem to be seeing? because all I see is this page:

https://stampsmarter.org/PNT/Taggin...aspx?ID=3112

Which tells me nothing that I didn't already know coming in here.
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Edited by AxmxZ - 06/05/2023 1:52 pm
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Posted 06/05/2023   1:56 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please see my post above; Mark (Tagging Admin) typically visits here a few times a week.
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Edit link for the specific Tagging database is
https://stampsmarter.org/features/T...ng_Home.html
Then click on Tab named "Database"


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Posted 06/05/2023   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add drkohler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The booklet version of the Owl and Grosbeak stamp is known containing untagged panes. Your stamp at top right likely is a single from such a booklet pane.

Here's an idea of how it looks like under uvc 254nm light (some ambient light present)

At top: tagged pane (some freak tagging)
At bottom: untagged pane (untagged panes are rare)
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Posted 06/05/2023   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe the OP's picture shows all of these stamps are from booklet panes


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As far as I know, the only U.S. stamps that glow red under short UV are air mail issues from the 1963-1979 era. The grosbeak should appear greenish ... or, if untagged, not show any glow at all.
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Posted 06/05/2023   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add drkohler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OP used a cheap uv lamp, and the wrong wavelength.
Depending on with what you photograph, the colours can be way off as well compared to what the eyes see. My picture above would suggest a slight reddish reaction on the untagged pane, but this is a result of the s*y camera on the back of my Samsung tablet (I didn't do any color correction since it's about the greenish glow of the standard panes).
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"I believe the OP's picture shows all of these stamps are from booklet panes"

Since these designs were only ever issued in booklet form, this is expected.
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Posted 06/05/2023   11:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mstocky2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamps shown are all tagged from what I can tell. The tagging brightness on these can vary where some are not as bright as others. The untagged version would appear more purplish as shown in the booklet examples. The UV light used appears that it may not be filtered appropriately.
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Posted 06/10/2023   10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AxmxZ to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
drkohler, you are 100% right - bought a shiny new Leuchtturm (to swap out my very old Leuchtturm) and the 254nm wavelength produced this new pic - obviously this is just an untagged variety.


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