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International Express Post Rates Out Of Australia To 1965

 
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Posted 06/07/2023   12:12 am  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add 64idgaf to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have just acquired a 1947 cover Australia - United States endorsed 'Express Post' with blue lines confirming (pic when I get home tonight).

Breckon in his articles in The Australian Philatelist lists the domestic Express Post rates. Does any one have the international rates?
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Posted 06/07/2023   12:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Was there such a service?

Post a picture of the cover when you can and we'll see if we can decipher the rate.
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Posted 06/07/2023   01:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Prexie3c to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure if this helps:

Australian Commonwealth Postal Rates - 1901-1966, Richard Breckon

The Australian Philatelist, Volume 2 Number 2, June 1989

Part 5. Forces Mail and Miscellaneous Services (Pages 34-42)

Page 40:
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Posted 06/07/2023   03:47 am  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I missed that paragraph in my too hasty reading of Breckon's article in that volume.

The answer was there all along!

Thanks




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Posted 06/07/2023   05:07 am  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The cover looks to be short paid.

1'6 Air mail
6d Express post
3d registration

2'3 total against the actual 2'1 paid.
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Posted 06/07/2023   09:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Black Swan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi 64idgaf

Sitting under your first post on this thread is a set of three covers with the overprints that you have for sale on EBay.

The descriptions for the first two are good.

The third - the 5 1/2d purple merino overprint - poses an issue in that the cover is addressed to the UK not the USA. Your comment on the rate deals with the USA.

5 1/2d is the correct rate for a registered cover to the UK at that time. (3d registration + 2 1/2d for a standard letter to a British Empire country = 5 1/2d).

If it were addressed to the USA the standard letter rate would have been 3 1/2d plus the registration of 3d = 6 1/2d.

Thought you'd be interested.
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Posted 06/07/2023   09:22 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Added image (below) from 64idgaf's listing mentioned above by Black Swan so the thread makes sense moving forward in time.
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Posted 06/07/2023   10:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Prexie3c to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also note, in the listing for the third cover - "89 days for air mail during the war".

Didn't the cover go by surface?
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Posted 06/07/2023   5:03 pm  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback, nothing like external examination for better proof reading!
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Posted 06/10/2023   11:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Black Swan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi 64idgaf,

Proof reading is not really the issue. What I'm commenting on is this:

"The postage rate for surface mail to the USA was 3d for the first ounce, 2d for each subsequent ounce with an additional d per item war tax (10 December, 1941 to 1 July, 1949). Registration was an additional 3 (1 March, 1901 to 1 July, 1949). Postmarked 'REGISTERED ELIZABETH ST / MELBOURNE / 27 August, 1942' (confirmed by back stamp), a receiving mark of London's 'MOUNT ST W 1' is dated 24 November, 1941. 89 days for air mail during the war".

That cover went to Great Britain. The rate was 5 1/2d for a British Empire country. The rate to the USA is irrelevant.

And, yes, as an aside, Perry is correct. They are hard to find. However, his pricing is a bit over-the-top.
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