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Is This Russian Stamp With Double Printed Frame?

 
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Posted 06/07/2023   07:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add post_pe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The frame at upper right corner looks to be doubled.The number at the bottom right side is also with some sort of error. Are these common occurrences?



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Posted 06/07/2023   09:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think to qualify for a double printed frame, it would have to be all-over. I can't really see anything with the number on the bottom right side.
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Posted 06/07/2023   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With the printing methods used back then I believe this is a fairly common thing. Very interesting for a specialist though


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Posted 06/07/2023   12:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also see the the issue with the "8" at lower right. It's broken so it looks like a "3." And the swirls under each number 8 have some variation, with the upper left swirls showing a complete loss of detail, no doubt due to plate wear.

What is further interesting is that all 4 corners are unique- none look the same!
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Quote:
It's broken so it looks like a "3."

I disagree. To me, it looks like the cancellation is impinging in that area.
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Posted 06/07/2023   4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I still think the LR "8" is broken. To me it's clear in these images that more ink is missing where there is no cancel.




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Posted 06/07/2023   5:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Zagorsky does not list this variety. The BIG one is C instead of B in Bocem. Ka-Ching!!!!
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Thank you all for your responses. I'm posting additional pictures of the section with the number . I hope they would be helpful. I agree with shermae that the corners looks odd with the frame connected with the inner frame. I have also observed that there is no open 8 type of variety listed in Russian philatelical literature,but the occurrence is still quite interesting to me.
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Posted 06/08/2023   04:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add post_pe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Still looks like a normal 8 to me, but I don't have a copy of my own, so can't compare.
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Not to mention as a used stamp the likelihood of surface disruptions increase.

I would also note the recent posts by the US BEP pressman who I think offered important information about the printing of stamps. Here in the US, and I suspect many other countries, saw many printing issues pass through the production line.

Whatever drawing and other production documentation where on the production line and in inspection did not define tight tolerances; they considered these 'just stamps' with limited usage (unlike bank notes). There was no need to have strict quality and inspection for stamps.

So stamps with small inking issues are actually normal production stamps. These small printing issue might be of interest to the highly specialize collectors.
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Posted 06/09/2023   04:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add post_pe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don thank you for the clarification .
The information tath you've shared is interesting, now I understand that the the error is common.
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