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Local Unlisted Ovprt"4A" On British East India 1866 Stamp

 
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Posted 09/04/2023   09:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add archiguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Could you please Identify This Local overprint "4A" on British East India 1866 stamp Sc#26B "FOUR ANNA"
I checked overprint with Electronic Microscope :Postal seal over the "4A"overprint. The pictures attached.
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Posted 10/19/2023   6:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ruthy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm new to this, but perhaps the 4A stands for 4 Anna's for locals who were unable to read english?
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Posted 10/20/2023   02:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Ruthy

It is an interesting thought. If you consider the implications, one, safely, can rule that out.

The Victorians were not very concerned with the illiterate in England. They, certainly, would not have considered illiterate peasants in India. The local administrators would not have been concerned with the lower castes.

If the stamp was overprinted - it, clearly, is not an overprint but a very crude handstamp - at all, it, under no circumstances, would be overprinted for the benefit of illiterates.

Illiterate people would not be able to read "4A" either.
An illiterate person would have been the very last person to stick a stamp on a letter. That person would not have been able to write a letter to stick it on. Nor would that person be able to address a letter to stick it on.
Such illiterate people, unlikely, could even afford 4 annas to waste on a letter.

It, also, will not have been overprinted for the benefit of an illiterate postman or post-office clerk. If they would be illiterate, mail would not be delivered to the addressee.

There are two British stamps (1 January 1883, SG 159 and 162) that had a large value printed together with the value spelled out as on earlier issues. This was done to make the value more visible for the clerks that, usually, worked in dark, candlelight rooms. This, certainly, is not such an example. Such an official issue would have been listed.

The first question that requires an answer is, was the "4A" applied before, or after the cancellation? It is impossible to tell from a scan. The odds are the latter is the case and someone with a stamp kit although the crude nature of the stamp does not rule out a knife and a potato has had some fun with a cancelled stamp.
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Posted 10/20/2023   12:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rjan55 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I checked for apparent 'RA' cancel and found naught in Numerical Cancels of British Empire. There are a series of R# cancels used in Burma if the A can be seen as a number.
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Posted 10/21/2023   02:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not a cancel.
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Posted 10/24/2023   2:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rjan55 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The black cancel is RA. The apparent overprint is 4A.
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Posted 10/24/2023   2:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not an overprint!

And the cancel looks more like RM than RA, if it is not an optical illusion.
The R, indeed, could be Myanmar / Birma. However, I would not completely rule out the 'R' is a 'B'.

http://goscf.com/t/65798#573327

But this appears to be a different type of cancel. Not sure if the coding in the thread is applicable for this type of cancel.
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Edited by NSK - 10/24/2023 3:13 pm
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