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Help Identifying Potential Oddities Of GB Seahorse

 
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Posted 04/28/2025   2:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add solomons_prayer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
A few questions about these, since it's my first time delving into seahorses and they're quite wonderful.

For the first, I have two questions:
1) At the bottom of the shield there appears to be an extra line. Would this be one of the double transfer varieties?
2) When examining the WMK, there are four half circles lining the bottom. I don't believe it's a continuation of the WMK because they are a bit larger.





As per the second, there is an ink smear at the inscription at the bottom. Is it common?

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Posted 04/28/2025   3:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add solomons_prayer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Anyway I can see why this series is so popular. The design is mesmerizing. I don't know about the WMK on the first, but it reminds me of a VanDiemens Queen I had where the manufacturer's sign was partially visible, indicating the stamps location at the end of the sheet. Could this be something similar?
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Posted 04/28/2025   4:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1: Nope.
a) The re-entries should be visible in other places as well, where they, clearly, are not.
b) The specialised catalogue does not list any re-entry for the re-engraved (bottom) stamp.

2: that is the top of "POS", being part of the marginal watermark "POSTAGE." You, also can see the top of the "T." It is a minor shift of the printing in relation to the watermark.

The ink smear looks like ink flow. It is not common to see that. Usually, the quality of the printing is quite good.
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Edited by NSK - 04/28/2025 4:39 pm
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Posted 04/28/2025   5:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add solomons_prayer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks NSK! So my assumption was correct in that this stamp must have been close to the edge of the sheet.
You are right, "marginal watermark". That is the term I was looking for. Here is the VanDiemen queen with a similar thing: "AG" of POSTAGE:

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Posted 04/28/2025   5:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add solomons_prayer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
About the line in shield, I'll take some pictures and zoom in. I don't know why but my scanner is lackluster right now.

The first image is what I perceived to be doubling inside the shield frame. I have no experience with these, so maybe that's how it's supposed to look?
But wow. The attention to detail in these is incredible.


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Posted 04/28/2025   7:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion, that shield does show a minor re-entry on the right side and bottom. Interesting.
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Posted 04/29/2025   01:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The lines are there in both stamps. In the bottom stamp, it fills up with solid colour.

On this site, it sometimes looks as if printers in Canada and the US were completely incapable of transferring a die to a plate. Re-entries are quite rare on British stamps. They are known for this stamp, but show in several parts of the design.

If you look long enough to the bottom stamps, you will find possible minor re-entries there as well. Yet, it is a riddle how you can have a re-entry that affects only a tiny part of a stamp cliché when the whole die is engraved and transferred.
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Edited by NSK - 04/29/2025 01:38 am
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Posted 04/29/2025   11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add solomons_prayer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've wondered about that myself NSK. There are many US classic stamps with re-entries appearing in one area, like in the bottom-right "30" of Scott 569. I've always known "double impressions" to be the ones that have doubling over the entire design, whereas "re-entries" can happen only in certain spots.

Do you both think it's worth submitting as a re-entry, even as minor as it is?
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Edited by solomons_prayer - 04/29/2025 11:17 am
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Posted 04/29/2025   12:51 pm  Show Profile Check cjpalermo1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No, you're just seeing differences in inking and plate wiping.
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Posted 04/29/2025   1:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It has been written many times: quality is everything. Your stamp is very poor. The price of a certificate, likely, wouldbe higher than what the stamp would be worth even with such a minor re-entry.

I, however, agree with cjpalermo that this is not a re-entry.

As I wrote before, a re-entry would show in more places. The major lines such as the frame, or the lines that make up the Union Jack on the shield show not the slightest evidence of a re-entry. If you compare the stamps, you will see that the engraved lines are present on both stamps, however, they fill up on one of them.
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Posted 04/30/2025   03:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add solomons_prayer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Got it guys. My eyes are inadequately trained for this design. I appreciate your input.
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