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Posted 01/05/2019   11:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Its not every day that I get to contribute to this thread, but:



City postman (about 1900)

Designer: Klaus Oberli
Engraver: Pierre Schopfer

Series:- Post Delivery
Catalog codes:
Mi:CH 1325ya, Sn:CH 789p, Yt:CH 1254a, Sg:CH 1112, AFA:CH 1311, Un:CH 1254, Zum:CH 741x
Issued on: 1986-09-09
Size: 25 x 30 mm
Format: Stamp
Emission: Definitive
Perforation: comb 13¼ x 13
Printing: Offset lithography and Recess
Colors: Multicolor
Face value: 80 Ct. - Swiss centime
Paper: phosphorescent

1987-07-15 issued fluorescent


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To differentiate the phosphorescent stamps of this series from the fluorescent stamps use a low wave length UV light such as 254 nm. Place the stamps on a table in a completely dark room, shine the UV lamp on them and shut your eyes. Turn off the UV lamp and immediately open your eyes. The stamps that are glowing in the dark are the phosphorescent ones.


My 2x2 block came out of a CH Philatelic Office holiday greetings souvenir folder.

Inner:


Outer:


Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 02/10/2019   06:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add strider to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello

Can anyone tell me who the engravers were for the Uruguay 1895 issue - the gaucho, the train and the bull's head etc, printed by Waterlow?

And the Guatemala 1929 issue for the UPU, printed by De la Rue, value in "centavos de quetzal"?

And the Venezuela 1948 issue celebrating the 450th anniversary of Columbus's arrival? Waterlow again.

My engraved stamps collection is just getting in Latin America!

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Posted 02/11/2019   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add AKPhilately to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi strider, as far as I know, no engravers are known of the three issues you mention.
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My stamp engravers website:
http://stampengravers.blogspot.co.uk/
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Posted 05/13/2019   11:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HoosRec to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
An amazing thread! As a new member, I have not yet reviewed very many threads. This one is extraordinary.

I no longer collect. I collected as a kid and then quit in high school. Then, in the mid-1980s, my wife and I were walking in London and happened to pass the British Postal Museum. I couldn't not go in. We were there for quite a while and I was hooked again—largely because of the artistry of the engravers. Over the next few years, I gathered together a few pre-1950 collections focusing on European colonial territories, but other priorities led me to stop collecting again.

I've learned over the years that one doesn't need to collect to appreciate stamps in general and the artistic talents of the engravers in particular. I never delved into identifying the engravers, but do appreciate the work on display here along with the information about the creators. Thanks everyone for sharing this!!!!

Tom
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Posted 06/01/2019   11:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add canadian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Irish stamp modeled by Brian L. Fox and engraved by vignette engraver Clive Cresser both for Bradbury Wilkinson. The design originated from Ireland but Brian had to prepare model to suit engraving and printing by recess method. The folder originated from Irish Post Office and given to the then Sales Director at Bradbury, during his visit to Ireland. The autographs have been deleted and names included in Calibri font.
cNA



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Posted 06/20/2019   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Canadian. You've done it again. Until now all I had found was the name of the photographer and I even had that spelt wrongly. There is probably rejoicing in heaven each time a new engraver is identified, considering how many philatelists are up there now.
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Collecting postal history of WW2 in Italy, Chicago precancels and world-wide line engraved. http://www.engravedstamps.net
Edited by jjarmstrong47 - 06/20/2019 11:25 pm
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Posted 06/21/2019   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jjarmstrong47 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now I'm annoyed!
Like most Australians, I use Gibbons as my primary source but once again, I've been led astray. I have been thinking that when they say a stamp is recess, it is engraved but this is not always true.

I've been going over my stamps from Finland which I originally bought and sorted using my Gibbons Scandinavia catalogue. Everything seemed fine until, at a club auction, I invested $2 in a 1993 Facit Specialised catalogue that nobody else seemed to want. If I'd bought Apple shares in the 1980s, I wouldn't have been any happier with the return on my investment.

So, getting back to the point, I'm re-sorting everything with both cats open and suddenly, in the 1930s, I'm finding that a lot of the stamps I have acquired are not engraved at all. Gibbons calls them recess but Facit says they were printed by copperplate recess but the dies were produced by a process called "grain-etched photogravure", not by hand engraving. There is no doubt that if I had looked closely before I bought them, which is hard to do online, I would have noticed the difference. Here is an example.



This is from the 1938 Red Cross set. Others produced in the same way include:
1937 Marshall Mannerheim,
1938 Skiing, Disabled soldiers, American settlement and Tercentenary of the Finnish Post Office
1940 Helsinki University
1941 Red Cross Fund
1943 and 1944 National Relief Fund
1945 Sports Fund, Red Cross Fund

After 1945, they go back to engraving, mostly on copper rather than steel by the look of it.

This older Facit also has a lot of engraver names that are not found in Gibbons. I have not had a chance to look at a more recent issue but if this quality was continued, that will be my Scandinavia reference from now on.

I hope this rather long-winded post helps others avoid the disappointment this has caused me.
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Collecting postal history of WW2 in Italy, Chicago precancels and world-wide line engraved. http://www.engravedstamps.net
Edited by jjarmstrong47 - 06/21/2019 8:49 pm
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Posted 07/09/2019   06:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add florian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My attention has recently been drawn to a new showcase for the beautiful in philately called "Sellos y artistas" (= stamps and artists) https://sellosyartistas.blogspot.com , ranging from https://sellosyartistas.blogspot.co...iversal.html to https://sellosyartistas.blogspot.co...latelia.html . I consider it to be the apotheosis of the postage stamp as the smallest piece of graphic art.

Running parallel with it, by the same blogger and also in Spanish, is a blog entitled "Agora - Artistas del Sello - Los sellos más bonitos del mundo" (= the most beautiful stamps in the world) https://www.agoradefilatelia.org/vi...9&start=2340 , well-documented, too, with wonderful images of stamps and original artworks that are well worth viewing even if you cannot read the language.

Fabulous images of engraved stamp beauties and references to their creators abound throughout.
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Posted 08/08/2019   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scinde_dawk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Added this imperforate from French India.

Issued as an omnibus series for the French Colonies in 1946 to commemorate the victory of the allied forces in World War II.
Designed & Engraved by Albert Decaris.
Printed by Institute of Gravure, Paris.

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Posted 10/12/2019   6:50 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Litho,
Thank you very much for all the updating efforts you are putting into the broken image links.
Don
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Posted 10/14/2019   5:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don

I have finally completed replacing all the missing
images in my posts.

Please return this thread to the regular forum.


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Posted 10/18/2019   03:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add florian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi lithograving,

Thanks a lot for accomplishing the remarkable feat of restoring your fine images of engraved stamps on this thread to their former glory.

Would the other posters still around follow suit and put an end to the devastation of this reminder of the past art of the engraved postage stamp and its famous craftsmen.

Much obliged,

Florián
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Posted 10/19/2019   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Florian

Yes it would be wonderful if other members would
replace the missing images on their posts.

It was a lot of work but it can be done.

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Posted 10/30/2019   10:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Denmark (forgive me) marked the Centenary of the UPU with this stamp, bearing an engraving of a carrier pigeon carrying a letter, on 19741009.

This is one of the most beautiful stamps I have ever seen, and I'm gonna spare y'all my effusive praise about clean lines, captured motion, monochromatic elegance, that whole fractal-type thing ... oops!

Carrier Pigeon with Letter
Country: Denmark
Catalog codes:
Michel DK 579
Stamp Number DK 564
Yvert et Tellier DK 588
Stanley Gibbons DK 595
AFA number DK 579
Issued on: 1974-10-09
Size: 31 x 24 mm
Colors: Dark violet blue
Perforation: comb12¾
Printing: Recess
Face value: 120 øre - Danish øre
Print run: 5,700,000
Paper: Fluorescent paper
Designed by: Boye Willumsen
Engraved by: Arne Kuhlmann / Arne Kühlmann

http://goscf.com/t/9106&whichpage=7#136112 ... another clean design executed by Mr Kühlmann

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey (who did his level best to ensure that this stamp had not been posted in this thread)

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Posted 11/03/2019   3:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@ikeyPikey

I also like that stamp and great work by Kühlmann especially
since it was only the second stamp he engraved.

Arne Kühlmann ( 1939? - 2017) started engraving stamps
for Denmark and Greenland in 1974 and by the late 1970's
and for the next 20+ years he engraved most of them.

Kühlmann took over from Slania who had engraved just about
every Danish and Greenland stamp from 1962 on.
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