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Posted 01/03/2013   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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"Paquebot" is nothing more than French for "steamship".

Regarding the use of stamps from which the vessel is registered, why don't we see a lot more Paquebot covers with Panama or Liberia stamps? Those two countries have, by far, the largest number of ships registered with their so-called "flag of convenience".
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Posted 01/03/2013   9:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy5351 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info
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Posted 01/04/2013   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Definition:

French for mailboat. First used in Great Britain in 1894, the term was adopted for general use by the Universal Postal Union in 1897
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doug2222 asked "why don't we see a lot more Paquebot covers with Panama or Liberia stamps?"

Some countries, nowadays, with vessels being registered under a flag of convenience, recognize the country where the ship is maintained etc as one of the relevant criteria for the stamps used.
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I'm sure there are some French speakers who would say "paquebot" and be heard as saying "packbo". Personally I prefer PACK-EH-BO which is nearer to the meaning (and sound) of "packet boat" to which it refers.
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Good afternoon,


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stallzer said in 01/04/2013:

"First used in Great Britain in 1894, the term was adopted for general use by the Universal Postal Union in 1897"


Dear stallzer,

The first reference about paquebot mail by Universal Postal Union was established, actually, in 1891 UPU Wien Conference - article 11, 3. (in force from 1/7/1892 on, according to article 28)

In 1891 the postal convention was established with the following text (french was the official language):

FRENCH
"Article 11, 3
Les correspondances déposées en pleine mer à la boîte d'un paquebot ou entre les mains des commandantes de navires peuvent être affranchies au moyen des timbres-poste et d'aprés le tarif du pays auquel appartient ou dont dépend le dit paquebot. Si le dépôt à bord a lieu pendant le stationnement aux deux points extrêmes du parcours ou dans l'une des escales intermédiaires, l'affranchissement n'est valable qu'autant qu'il est effectué au moyen de timbres-poste et d'après le tarif du pays dans les eaux duquel se trouve le paquebot."

ENGLISH (american text)
Article 11, 3
"Correspondence mailed on the high seas in the letter-box of a vessel or by being handed to the captains of vessels may be prepaid 'by means of the
postage-stamps and according to the postage-rates of the country to which said vessel belongs or on which it is dependent. If the mailing on board takes
place during the stay of the vessel at one of the two terminal points of the voyage or at one of the intermediate ports of call, prepayment of postage is
not valid unless it is effected by means of the postage-stamps and according to the postage-rates of the country in whose waters the vessel happens to be."

SOURCE
Documents du Congrès Postal de Vienne 1891 (1891). Berne: Union Postale Universelle.

Post Scriptum - Later, in 1894, the paquebot cachet was adopted by UPU and in 1897 Washington conference it was discussed and approved once more.
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