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George Washington Stamp 1861 3 Cent. Rose Or Pink

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Posted 04/19/2025   07:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You can find regular 64's with the same Portland October '61 PM and that is what I see, with the usual warnings about color on monitors etc. IMHO the condition does not make a cert worth it either way unless you want to settle in your mind which it is. As to why a dealer let it continue on? Condition if you ask me. The back is no doubt ugly as well?
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Posted 04/20/2025   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gvol21 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, all - I think I'll send it in just to settle the question. Perfectly fine with a regular 64 as an outcome, too.

@Rog - it is a rather ugly copy, but the album was truly 'unpicked' by a dealer (bought it from a used bookstore and there were quite a few other desirable 19th century world classics in there that would have been removed had it passed through the hands of an actual dealer)
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Posted 04/20/2025   7:06 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A blueish tint doesn't always equate to 64a. Remember that there are 3 different shades that equate to #64: pink, carmine pink and lavender pink.

The carmine pink and lavender pink have been certified as pigeon blood pink, although they are different shades completely than pigeon blood. I realize that there is a popular thought that pigeon blood pink must contain blue. The problem is that no one has ever located Stanley Ashbrook's reference collection, and Ashbrook is the person that came up with the pigeon blood moniker.

If you check with back issues of The Chronicle, there is an article by Mike McClung that suggests that Ashbrook called 64a pigeon blood pink, because it was the shade that was similar to the pigeon blood ruby, which is supposedly the rarest of the rare. I don't know a lot about the ruby, but McClung suggests that pigeon blood pink is "ruby pink" not "blueish pink", as blueish pink would be lavender pink.

Not meaning to hijack the topic here, but whenever I see pigeon blood described as containing "blue", I feel it's best to at least interject with the "ruby" thought.

gvol- it's a shame that your stamp isn't in great condition, because whether it's 64, 64a or 64 (lavender pink), it's just a beautiful shade, and sure looks like 64-something!

Ray
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Posted 04/21/2025   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gvol21 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, Ray. Regardless of which shade of 64 it turns out to be, I think it's a fun story and worth the cert. And I won't be disappointed if it's a cheaper one - after all, the stamp isn't worth much, so the silver lining would be a lower expertizing bill!
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