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Collecting WW2 German Stamps

 
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Posted 08/12/2024   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Sgt. Rock to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am new to stamp collecting and this forum. After reading through David Parkers book European Stamp Issues of the second World War I became interested in this topic, particularly the German stamps. I purchased a few through some dealers on HipStamp but would like to get some opinions on other dealers/auctions out there and where to look for information on the topic. I am interested in the history behind the stamps as well as the stamps themselves and want to build a quality collection, so any insight this community can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted 08/12/2024   4:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You also posted that here: https://goscf.com/t/87470&whichpage=1#810218

I hope you did not buy very expensive sets without certificates. Forgeries are very common, especially when there are overprints involved, Also, regumming is common.

E.g.: it is common for German stamps (sets) catalogued over € 100 to be bought with BPP certificate.
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Posted 08/13/2024   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sgt. Rock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, Very few that I have seen for sale on line offer a certification. I paid about $75.00 for a collection of German stamps. I had the suspicion that they weren't original stamps from the era as they are in remarkably good shape for 80 year old stamps. My guess is they are reprinted( if that is something that happens in the stamp world).
Where do I find reputable dealers and what should I look for when buying these stamps? I really appreciate the feed back.
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Posted 08/13/2024   09:34 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most German WWII stamps are fairly common and cheap. There's no reason why they shouldn't be in excellent condition. Have you got a catalogue covering Germany?
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Posted 08/13/2024   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As GeoffHa has written, many (the majority) are cheap and can be found in good condition.

The ones you should be careful with are overprints in general and from several countries. There are many fake overprints. The more expensive overprints are being forged. Also, those sets that are expensive, usually, are so because they are rare in good condition. Those are the ones you have to be careful with,

If you buy an expensive set without a certificate, be sure they are genuine and with original gum (if unmounted or unused).

There are many reputable dealers in Germany but there also are Italian dealers that offer stamps overprinted like those from Yugoslavia. Some auction houses regularly auction the better items. Delcampe, ebay, and Hipstamp are good enough for most stamps.
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Posted 08/13/2024   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Catawiki, often, auctions the higher-priced material. Many lots come with certificates. But these are the more expensive items.
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Posted 08/13/2024   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sgt. Rock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks NSK and GeoffHa for the replies, makes me feel better about things. I have purchased a Michel catalog of german stamps that cover 1872 - 1945 (in english). It is on backorder so I won't see it for 8 -12 weeks. Some more questions: 1) Do postmarks on these stamps give an indication of authenticity? 2) What about watermarks, some issues of these stamps (starting in 1933) had swastika watermarks. How can it be determined when considering buying a stamp if the watermark is present?
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Posted 08/13/2024   11:04 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On the more problematic items that NSK mentions, a postmark could be part of the faking. When you look at the catalogue, you'll see that most issues either have or have not a watermark. In the odd case where both types exist, you'd expect someone selling a specific set to mention which - not, of course, if the stamps simply form part of a job lot. If you have the stamps in hand, German watermarks are usually easily seen.
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Posted 08/13/2024   11:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sgt. Rock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks GeoffHa, you and NSK have been a big help!
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Posted 08/14/2024   12:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sgt. Rock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
GeoffHa, in thinking what you said about watermarks I compiled a list of the stamps that should have the sawstika watermark and started looking at those stamps being offered online. The scans of these stamps that show the gum side (not all do) did not reveal any watermark, nor did the descriptions say that the watermark is present. Does that mean that the stamps are not genuine? Am I putting too much weight on the watermark issue?
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Posted 08/14/2024   12:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Does that mean that the stamps are not genuine?


Watermarks do not always show in pictures even when easily visible by the naked eye. And sometimes, experience plays a role in whether or not you see them in the picture.


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Am I putting too much weight on the watermark issue?


Yes.It makes little sense to forge cheap stamps. Forging stamps costs money and, at least, time. The cheaper the stamp, the less return on investment.

That does not mean everyone is sensible. Cheap stamps have been forged.
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Posted 08/14/2024   2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sgt. Rock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks NSK!
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