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All Forums Category: World Stamps and Covers Discussions Forum: World Classic Stamps Mint and Used

Upper Silesia - C.l.h.s. Oveprints

 
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ronjkemsk
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Posted 04/07/2025   11:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ronjkemsk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello, im find this stamps, Upper Silesia - C.l.H.S. oveprints, what do you think?


Thx!
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rogdcam
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M. Haertel This mark is reported to be worthless. It has been applied to forgeries made by Haertel himself. [DBZ 1966 p. 1319 and Michel Deutschland Spezial.]


https://www.filatelia.fi/experts/namesg.html
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NSK
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Max Haertel is known for expertising the Oppelner Notausgaben. They have been forged and Max Haertel's expertiser mark is not worth much. The BPP advises to resubmit them for expertising. I do not know which expert the stamps at the lower left belonged to.
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ronjkemsk
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Posted 04/07/2025   12:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ronjkemsk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, there are two certifications on the stamps, and in Russia there are no experts who can check these stamps.
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cupram
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The stamp series is worth over 30,000 Euros. (cat.Michel)
The BPP expertise could cost quite a lot (if they are genuine)
You can ask for information at:



You can send just 1-2 stamps to check the old expertise.
I found some clues about overprint on a site (I don't guarantee that it is correct):

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NSK
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Payment might be an issue. If I understand OP, he is in Russia. Also stamps that are that valuable may be subject to customs restrictions.
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Germania
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Second stamp, first row is not known with this CIHS overprint (would be the 2 1/2 Pfg value). Sixth stamp, second row, the 10 Pfg stamp with overprint for aid for war victims has always been found to have a forged CIHS overprint (per Michel catalog).

Since the expertization marks on those two stamps appears to be identical to all the other stamps I have no confidence that any are genuine.
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