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How to identify the #832h one-dollar Prexy?  
 

 
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Posted 08/26/2017   11:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add pastime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message
Hello,
Scott advises "No. 832h is the wet-printed first printing, but the shade essentially matches the red violet normally seen on No. 832c."
I can usually tell the difference between a wet and dry Liberty but there's really little color on the dollar Prexies to use. Is there a measureable paper shrinkage? Is the first printing found on only some plate numbers?
Thank you!
Steve
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Posted 08/26/2017   10:07 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have them in front of me, but I recall the gum looks very different between the wet and dry printings on the $1 Prexie.
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Posted 08/26/2017   11:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pastime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Think you just answered my question. I've got only two purple & blacks and one red violet & black but the gum on all three is similar to that on unused 1926 regular issues, so the red violet & black becomes a candidate for a #832h, I reason. I also have three #832g's (certified to be OG) but on back is "smooth, colorless gum" - the catalog description for dry printed #832c. My task now is to buy some OG #832c's and look for the smooth, colorless gum in order to confirm that it's a "c" and not a "h". Thank you so much!
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Posted 10/24/2017   12:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pastime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
An update: Sent in some stamps to PSE and the red violet & black with the 1926 style gum did come back as a #832h. I don't own a current Scott specialized catalog but doubt very much that it is as scarce an item as this eBay listing suggests, haha! https://www.ebay.com/itm/832h-RARE-...AOSws8VZ3j4M
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Posted 10/24/2017   12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 2016 US Scott Specialized lists but does not price #832h mint or used.
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Posted 10/25/2017   10:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DeEll to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The wet printings design shrinks as compared to the dry printings! Very easy to tell by using the Precision Multi-Gauge.
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Posted 11/05/2017   07:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just curious if the bust position of Woodrow Wilson is of any interest?
I have 30 or so 832's, the position of the bust varies quite a bit. From his head almost being in UNITED STATES POSTAGE to his lapel almost being in his name at the bottom.

There looks to be a physical size difference in several of these stamps, as well as paper shade differences.

I didn't see anything on Stamp Smarter that discussed bust position, size or paper shading.

Thanks all.
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Posted 11/05/2017   09:03 am  Show Profile Check Petert4522's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am pretty sure these high denomination stamps were printed in two stages. A shift of the medallion is pretty normal.

Peter
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Posted 11/05/2017   10:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moyock13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Peter. Figured it was pretty normal, but interestingly the shift up and down can be up to 2 mm between stamps.

And the color variations from a bright magenta to a deep dark purple/black. There's even a bright violet.

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Posted 11/06/2017   01:39 am  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the shift is large enough it is of interest to EFO collectors.
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Posted 11/11/2017   10:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shiney95 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am the person that purchased the 832h as offered on eBay and at a price not at the original asking price.

It may not turn out to be as scarce as it seems now as the 832g apparently is more common than originally suspected but as a U.S. collector and specializing in The Prexies and Liberty Series, I am delighted to add this to my collection


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Posted 11/14/2017   7:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do you have an 832, an 832c and an 832g you could scan side-by-side. I'm curious about the color shade differences.
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Posted 11/15/2017   5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pastime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Caper123,

Here's a set. The colors L-R are purple, red violet, and bright magenta. Please don't try to use this as a color guide because the only way to see a true color is to look at the stamp in person with a magnifier. The 832g should strike the eye as "pink" and this one doesn't (to me, anyway). If buying on line I always make sure the seller has a no questions asked return policy.

Steve

p.s. The center stamp carries PSE cert 1336830; the right stamp has PF cert 541682.


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