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Posted 11/14/2017   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add will to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message
Yup.. What's the accepted definition of a Cinderella?

I've always have issues when I'm trying to describe non-standard stamps.

There are so many concepts that I'm always in two (or more) minds when using one concept or the other (not to mention when I need to use a term in a language other than Spanish!)

So yeah... what is and what's the different between a Cinderella, a Fake, a Counterfeit, a Forgery, a fantasy, a bogus stamp, a label, etc. Fiscal, not issued, and other more obvious concepts are okay for me.

From my point of view, a Cinderella is the same as a fantasy or a bogus stamp. It's slightly different than a label in the sense that a label had a legal predefined purpose when it was printed. The former concepts not.

Thoughts?
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Posted 11/15/2017   01:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Timm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_stamp

Counterfeit and Forgery stamps are meant to deceive.

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Posted 11/15/2017   03:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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A Cinderella is all those items you mentioned and more. Look upon the term Cinderella as an umbrella and all stamps not listed in Simplified catalogues are under that Umbrella.

It is a general term for all those items.
Some view the term differently and that's OK too. As a member of the Cinderella Stamp Club, I seem to have adopted their idea....and that's OK too !

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Posted 11/15/2017   06:23 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Glossary is located in upper left hand corner of each page of this forum. Additionally, Stamp Smarter has an illustrated Glossary http://stampsmarter.com/Learning/GlossaryHome.html
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Posted 11/15/2017   06:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JPMG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Look on eBay for Philatelic Exhibition Stamps and you will see that some Cinderella can compete with the most beautiful engraved stamps here one set from eBay, not quite a Fake, a Counterfeit, a Forgery, a fantasy or a bogus stamp


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Posted 11/15/2017   07:37 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As Londonbus says, the term also varies from collector to collector and place to place. For example, I think that revenue stamps are more commonly lumped in with collections of Cinderellas in UK auctions, whilst they might be separated in the US.


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Posted 11/15/2017   11:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add will to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank y'all for your responses!

@JPMG: Beautiful pieces indeed! I'd never call those stamps forgeries, bogus, or fantasy. Those pieces perfectly fit "my" concept of "labels"

@geoffHa: That's what I thought and hence my question. I know there are different opinions for these terms in Spanish and wondered if there was a more accepted approach in English.
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I think my Australian Club, sums it up nicely............


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