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Posted 03/07/2018   10:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rogdcam to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Thought I would combine these seperate threads into one topic. These five stamps were just purchased on eBay from the Cartel. Take a look. Research the cartel/Philip Ryle on SCF and arm yourself with knowedge. Do not be another victim.

http://goscf.com/t/60867

http://goscf.com/t/60866

http://goscf.com/t/60889

http://goscf.com/t/60868

http://goscf.com/t/60890

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Posted 03/07/2018   2:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ananthveerappan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On the same thought, I am not sure if this a legit one or a cartel.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/323108763527

Stamp shows the hallmarks of a cartel stamp.

But listing shows a store front and other items in their sale are low end items.

Also seller seems fairly new.
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Posted 03/07/2018   2:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. Stampdeals is a cartel ID that has been dormant. Good eye.
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Posted 03/07/2018   4:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add uboatnut to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some of Philip Ryle's British Cartel sites

* NARU'd by eBay

* best-low-prices
mint.stamps
buffalostamps2014
* tenshillings
re-entry
superdeal5
bank-notes
* collect4
* xfstamps
special_delivery
numis_phil
* pan_pacific
* bargain-discount-deals
* stampdeals

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Posted 03/07/2018   4:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stampdeals is currently active
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Posted 03/07/2018   5:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Silverlock to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting that list, uboatnut. As a "just dipping my toe into the eBay stamp waters" person, that's very good information to know.
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Posted 03/07/2018   5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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As a "just dipping my toe into the eBay stamp waters" person, that's very good information to know


Be very careful! If you have any doubts on lots, or sellers, start a thread on your questions. Very knowledgeable people and helpful people on this board.
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Posted 03/07/2018   5:49 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do discovery and research into the seller as well (or more than) as the stamp(s) you are buying. If you do not know the seller and cannot get any additional info on the seller, then build a relationship over time before committing any significant amounts of money.
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Posted 03/08/2018   03:42 am  Show Profile Check kcaramat's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add kcaramat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Thanks for posting that list, uboatnut. As a "just dipping my toe into the eBay stamp waters" person, that's very good information to know.


It's a good starting point, but the seller keeps adding "new" IDs on a regular basis. His MO is usually the same and after awhile it gets pretty easy to recognize.
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Posted 03/08/2018   05:28 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All,
I edited uboatnut post to correct two mistakes, those sellers are NOT the cartel.

Here is a more complete listed of names, although I am sure he has many more that have not yet been uncovered. He uses the unknown accounts for shill bidding and to build up for possible future use as seller accounts. I would estimate that he has a total of 40-50 accounts.

air-post                        NARU
air-mail                        NARU
bank-notes                 ACTIVE
bargaindiscountsales     NARU
bargain-discount-deals     ACTIVE
best-low-prices            NARU
collect04                      NARU
collect-coins                NARU
collectstamps              NARU
dolcegarbana              INACTIVE (reactivated)
dustiwashingto-0         ACTIVE (shill bidder)
great_stamps              NARU 
mint.stamps                INACTIVE (private)
pan_pacific                 NARU
postage-dues              NARU
re-entry                       NARU 
sale-bargains               NARU
stamp-collecting          NARU
stampdeals                ACTIVE (NARU & reactivated)
stamp.shop                NARU
superdeal5                  NARU
tenshillings                   NARU
tokenshop                   ACTIVE (shill bidder)
ukusseller                    NARU 
us.2.u                          NARU 
us-2-u                          NARU
us-the-us                     NARU 
xfstamps                     NARU


kcaramat is correct, anyone who is buying higher end stamps on eBay should become familar with his 'MO' and learn how to spot him. It is actually not too hard but publishing this info will only allow him to improve. If anyone needs assistence they should use this community and ask questions about a listing.
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Posted 03/12/2018   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I recall another id something like "hmorgan10"
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Posted 03/12/2018   11:55 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I believe that name (which was hmorgan56 before hmorgan10) got changed to another name. Constantly changing names is another method used to keep people guessing. Once a name gets changed I do not think that you can change it back, does anyone know if this is true?
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Posted 03/13/2018   11:23 pm  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I hope Phil_Atelic follows through and keeps us informed about his experiences with the 9 stamps he purchased from the cartel. I think those of us who are forum regulars understand the cartel but many new visitors don't understand the issues. I feel bad for Phil_Atelic but sharing his experiences may help a lot of other people.
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Posted 03/17/2018   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phil_Atelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Krelyea and the other members who have interest and or participated in the numerous threads, in case you missed it the update regarding the seven purchases from cartel is a full refund as of yesterday. Thankfully eBay is aware of the dubious and ujnscrupulous
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Posted 03/17/2018   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phil_Atelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unscrupulous practices and hopefully will be taking action.
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eBay has been aware for a decade. The stamps are currently for sale again. They were up for sale before you even received them. Glad you made out OK. Philip Ryle without a doubt followed this forum and took preemptive action. Gauranteed that one year from now the Cartel will still be happily selling on eBay and eBay will still be "aware" of the situation.
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