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Swaziland Is Now Eswatini

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Posted 04/21/2018   1:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Battlestamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I checked their postal services webpage already and nothing announced there yet so it might be awhile before they change the name on the stamps. They do seem to have a stockpile of older stamps for sale so expect some overprints in the near future.
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Posted 04/21/2018   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"A new country to collect". Does a change of name make a new country? I have a collection "Netherlands and Colonies" in two Davo albums. When Curacao became the Netherlands Antilles the album just continued, but with the new name on the pages

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Posted 04/21/2018   3:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not even a name change. They are simply switching from English 'Swaziland' to Swazi 'eSwatini' (meaning still the same Swaziland). Both being official languages in there.

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Posted 04/21/2018   6:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modernstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. Sad to read about all of the problems in their country.
I guess their stamps and coins/currency will be changing soon.
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Posted 04/22/2018   8:59 pm  Show Profile Check clivel's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add clivel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It has always been surprising, that until now, Swaziland unlike most other colonial African countries never renamed themselves on independence. For example, Bechuanaland became Botswana, Basutoland became Lesotho, Southern Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe, etc.

On a somewhat related note; in 2004 a joint issue mini-sheet was released by SAPOA (Southern Africa Postal Operators Association) countries. Some countries issued a very limited number of these attractive sheetlets, for example Zambia issued only 3000, Malawi 2000 and right at the bottom of the list with only 1000 issued was Swaziland.



As I only became aware of this joint issue some months after release I thought that I had missed the boat especially with regard to Swaziland. Nevertheless, determined to get my hands on a sheetlet I emailed the philatelic section of Swaziland Posts and Telecommunications to ask if they had any sheetlets left, and if so what would the cost be for 2 of these as well an FDC posted to Canada.
A few days later I received a response requesting that I send US$10 cash to the attention of the person who responded and in return, depending on the prevailing exchange rate, he would send me an unspecified number of sheetlets and FDCs.

I was a bit taken aback by this unorthodox arrangement but nevertheless went ahead and popped a US$10 banknote into the post half expecting that to be the end of it.
A few months later, not having heard anything I emailed him once or twice to ask if the money had arrived but my emails went unanswered. I eventually chalked it up to experience and moved on to better things.

About a year later a large brown official envelope with the words "On His Majesty's Service" boldly emblazoned across the top arrived in the mail. Inside were three of the mini-sheets and two FDCs. Needless to say I was more than a little surprised.
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Posted 04/23/2018   06:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Following in from Peter's comment, does this make Swaziland technically a "dead country" in terms of stamps and postal history?
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Posted 04/23/2018   9:23 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is a typo - Apple bought the country and has renamed it iSwatini
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Apparently the first stamps of Eswatini have been issued: http://commonwealthstampsopinion.bl...-stamps.html
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It's not a "new country". It's the same country with a different name. And apparently even that name is the name that was used inside the country before. Or so it seems.

When Czechoslovakia became the Czech Republic, then became Czechia, was it a "new country" each time?

From Belgian Congo to Congo was a new government at the time of independence. That's different, I think. When a country becomes independent, that's sort of a new country (in some ways, but not in others).

Mere name changes don't rise to that level or Congo --> Zaire --> Republic of Congo would all be "new countries." But they weren't.

Greenland changed its name a few years ago to Kalaallit Nunaat (though most people still use the older name), but I didn't hear anyone accuse it of being a "new country".

Are Myanmar and Burma different countries? Not really.
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A new "name to collect" does not comport well. Since Country is more about boundaries let us use the term Nation. Better?
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Posted 09/27/2018   03:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a nice discussion point for my breakfast tea. As I see it, the concept of a nation has more to do with a statement of national identity (such as language, religion, other cultural issues etc.). Just because you change your name doesn't make you a new nation unless there is another fundamental change accompanying this such as independence from a previous regime (e.g. what happened in South Sudan, East Timor, and nearly all the post-colonial states in Africa and elsewhere).

I can certainly see the logic for Swaziland to change its name as a cultural statement, but it's neither a new nation nor a new country, just as Myanmar and Burma are the same place, and probably used the same logic to change names.

Just something else for us obsessive collectors to deal with
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Posted 09/27/2018   12:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Czech Republic is now Czechia? I missed that memo.

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Posted 09/27/2018   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Who knew.
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Posted 09/27/2018   12:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vayolene to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Czech Republic became Czechia two years ago.
But Czechoslovakia didn't become Czech Republic : it was splitted into two separate nations,Czech Republic and Slovakia.
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