One more thought, which I've mentioned elsewhere. The Steiner pages appear to be 8 1/2 x 11 inches, which I think I saw on the Steiner web site. If that's correct, they would not work for me since my binders all are Scott Intl. I have some other size binders; three ring style; but would have to buy a lot more. Like I said earlier; at least for me; far too much hassle to convert 50,000 stamps (actually less since several thousand will be sold off); plus getting new hinges & mounts.
Still, there are three options for classic Mexico pages and advocates for all 3, which is good. Be interesting to find out how MEPSI members, besides me, house their collections of classic Mexico. Any of you other guys, replying on the thread, MEPSI members?
Jkjblue: That comparison is somewhat valid, although (1) the paper that Palo uses is heavier weight than a 70# text, but more importantly (2) your analysis values your time to print the pages, cut, and affix the mounts at $0, which I would argue is inaccurate, unless you love that task and prefer spending your time manufacturing album pages than actually working with stamps.
Being careful and meticulous, I would speculate you could print, punch, cut and affix mounts for no more than 10 pages per hour (and I think that is being optimistic). 6,500 pages divided by 10 = 650 hours. $19,175 cost savings divided by 650 = $29.50/hour. Not a bad hourly wage, but talk about drudge work...
If you take the labor out of the equation, sure it's a no brainer, but spending hundreds of hours making album pages is not high up on my to-do list.
Perhaps my opinion will change once I am retired and time is less valuable of a commodity, but that is still a long way off...
I think the key difference here is a matter of scale. As Jim says, if you are only collecting a few countries, Palo albums is a very good choice. However, if one is collecting the world, even to 1940, I suspect very few people would want to shell out over $22,000 just for the albums. By the way, don't forget the binders to hold the pages! It would cost an additional $3500 just for the binders.
I read in an ad for an auction somewhere,
"Largely concentrating on Europe and its Colonies, and up until recently British Commonwealth, he has assembled beautiful, largely mint (used if it exists only that way), 1840-1940 year-date collections filling a few hundred specially made Palo hingeless albums."
So, it is possible if you are willing to spend that kind of money
Interesting that, on Jim's figures, even Steiner greatly exceeds in cost my combo of the New Ideal and New Imperial, which between them cover the world to 1936. Limited varieties and no dues/officials in the New Ideal, but otherwise all one could ask for - or this one, anyway!
BTW, Jim, I notice that we share a "kitchen scissors" technique on mount-cutting!
GeoffHa wrote: "you probably need to use mounts on very few pre-1940 stamps.........." I'll disagree a little with that. Like Geoff, I use mounts for any stamp cataloging, in Scott, over $50 (about the L 20 amount suggested by Geoff). The caveat is that some of the early classic Mexico are printed on really thin paper. Considering the state of stamp hinges these days, I'm hesitant to use hinges on those really thin ones.
Quote: Considering the state of stamp hinges these days, I'm hesitant to use hinges on those really thin ones.
Reviving the thread a little,as it has great information on the Palo (thanks revenuecollector) and on Steiner pages with relative costs.
It is true that I do mount all the stamps (WW 1840-1940 - 1952 British Commonwealth) when I use the Steiner pages. An advantage over hinges is I can quickly swap out and insert a better copy, what with all the feeder albums coming my way.
Honestly, I've soured on using hinges. After going through 10,000 Dennisons (perfect!) on stamps of the 1941-1970 era , I've found, for me, the "supersafe" hinges now sold (actually, all modern hinges come from the same Prinz factory in Germany) might as well be called "super-concrete".
BTW, I've now acquired a Palo album (Egypt-Sudan), and. since the Palo shares the same Steiner layout DNA, it is quite compatible.
A question...What is the difference between archival and acid-free? I guess all archival paper is acid-free but not all acid- paper is archival. Does acid-free have some sort of off gassing problem like phthalates, or formaldehyde or other?
Comment...I'm not sure of the quoted cost of $3300 for binders form a previous poster. I have seen dozens sell at the local consignment auction for $0.10 or less each. Sometimes they are just left on the tables for the taking. If one wears out just replace it with another 10 center. I personally like to get the binders with the metal hinges on them (albeit harder to find) and make my own rib and covers out of Luan. I have made several that way. They last forever and look good. Here is an example of one I keep some covers in. Cheers! Wolf-==-