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Posted 06/14/2017   7:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ACDSee Ultimate10, Pro10 SeePlus and ACDSee 20 are the current version that do contact sheet. ACDSee Photo Editor 10 don't
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Posted 06/15/2017   12:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SVTarHeel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I downloaded irfanview (4.44 I think), found and bought a copy of ACDSee 3.1 and ordered some 6 3/4 poly sleeves. I'll post back when things arrive and I dig in.

One follow up question as I'm pre-planning in the meantime... as John Becker mentioned, time is money. I'm very familiar with selling on eBay and realize that extra time spent preparing the listing often results in better results/more money. Assuming that selling these in lots is the best trade off between time required and monetary return, anyone have experience with the best groupings? So far, the two that seem best to me are 1) grouping by cachet maker/printer/designer, and 2) going strictly by Scott # ranges.

Like many ppl in my shoes, I'm trying to do three things - 1) maximize return, 2) get these to someone who will get more out of them than I will (either monetarily or in enjoyment) and 3) not have this consume my life. I'm open to any options that give me a shot at success and am extremely grateful for the good advice already given.
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Posted 06/15/2017   02:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

An observation.

Typed in "US FDC" in my eBay (Australia) box, selected in "Stamps"
First page of 100 results, were 1 Vendor, every FDC (100) individually scanned, and every FDC was $1
There wasn't much happening from what I could see.

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Posted 06/15/2017   04:27 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My experience in getting rid of a couple of hundred GB covers that I acquired when buying some unrelated printed ephemera was that I struggled to get 10p when sold as a job lot. But I'm not sure I'd have done much better breaking them into, say, a dozen lots. Financially, they are, in the main, turkeys, although they can still be an attractive garnish for a collection.
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Posted 06/16/2017   5:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SVTarHeel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My poly sleeves should arrive tmrw, but the software isn't scheduled until Monday's mail. I think I'll go ahead and start by taking them off the sheets he 'mounted' them on and putting each one in a sleeve. That way, I can label them while I have the Scott number at hand. I'm planning to then group them by company for now and see what kind of lots that gives me.
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Posted 06/18/2017   12:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
had taken construction paper and put a Scott number at the bottom with a label maker. Then he mounted (not hinged) whatever he had for that number on the sheet - single, plate block, FDC

I am not sure exactly how these FDCs were mounted, but it sounds a bit like they were glued or something onto construction paper? As others have mentioned, very few FDCs going from the 1940s to the present, and many from the 1930s, have very little commercial value and sell for quite minimal amounts on eBay. And unless one can buy plastic sleeves for a few pennies each the cost of the sleeve can exceed the value of the FDC. Of course there are exceptions, but sadly not that many. And this is for FDCs that are in perfect condition - front and back. If these were somehow glued or mounted to construction paper there may be some damage to their backs which will significantly reduce their already minimal values. Also, if they were on that construction paper for very long, there could be some damage from the acid in the non-archival construction paper migrating into the backs of the FDCs and stamps and whatever was on that construction paper. That is also considered damage.

Most eBay auctions of FDCs do not sell since the sellers are asking unreasonable high prices so one must filter for auctions where FDCs actually sold. A good example of a recent auction of FDCs that sold a group of 340 FDCs ranging from the 1940s to the present. The auction reached $61 which works out to a bit less than 18 cents per FDC. And that is before the seller paid eBay the auction fees which they charge every seller as a percentage of the winning bid so the actual amount achieved per FDC from the 1940s to the present would be more in the 14 to 15 cents each range. Then subtract from that the cost of the plastic sleeves you purchased to put the FDCs into. Then subtract the cost of the Scotts catalog you just bought to identify them. Then subtract from that whatever value you place on your time to organize the FDCs and then put together a well photographed and described auction on eBay and the end result can be a bit disheartening. http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-FDC-COLL...172723210964
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Posted 06/18/2017   12:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SVTarHeel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Kimo, good points all. I agree that it's largely a waste time-wise, but I hate sitting on something that someone else could enjoy. Plus, I'd like to convert the stuff I don't collect into whatever few dollars I can.

Maybe my best bet is to do a test run with all the FDCs from one company and see if there's any interest. If not, I'll just do one huge lot

Do I need to go so far as breaking down lots into addressed, block of 4, plate block, etc? Or could I just got with 'Lot of 124 ArtCraft FDCs, 1964-1982'?
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Posted 06/18/2017   10:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1. Are there any FDCs that have $5 face value stamps such as the 1966 John Bassett Moore, or the 1956 Alexander Hamilton or the 1987 Brett Harte? If so sell those individually as ones in perfect condition on the front and on the back go for several dollars each. Then since you are conducting a selling experiment with a portion of the covers, take out the plate number blocks and sell those as a group. Finally sell the rest of the lot as a group. In the auction include crisp and very sharply focused photos of BOTH the fronts and the backs of the covers. Set the starting bid at $1 for each lot, cross your fingers and see how it goes! You will get the going market value on eBay if you include very clear photos, be honest about their condition, and start the bidding at a very low level of $1 per lot.
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Posted 06/18/2017   11:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SVTarHeel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Re: high dollar and/or rare stamps

I've yet to lay eyes on every FDC, so I don't really know. But I doubt it. Nothing I've seen so far leads me to believe there's something really unique like that. At some level, if I end up with 500 first day covers and could get 15c each, unless I uncover something I don't expect to find, I'd probably consider that a fair trade. I know there are some covers with older stamps, but I'm just talking FDCs here. Someone local made the same suggestion re: market value and eBay - a good listing will get market price. Thanks for the feedback Kimo.
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Posted 06/19/2017   07:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jconey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SVTarHeel - Do you belong to any clubs or attend shows in your area? You might also consider offering them for trade. This is also an option on various websites. That may satisfy your needs and those of another too.

If you're in no hurry and you don't mind putting some work in... You're best bet would be to list them for under a buck each with actual shipping cost (postage plus the cost of the envelope and sleeve). Last time I bought 1000 sleeves they were ~1.3 cents each. People also react well if you build the S&H in and offer free shipping (in the US). If you put them in groups figure 25-50 cents each for run of the mill FDCs. I'd check through the lot and see if there are any of value though. The more in the lot the deeper the discount. Make sure they are all FDCs too and don't have a few inauguration covers or other specialty items such as first flights or anything else that would command a better price.

About once every month or two eBay runs a special deal for 500 ads with no insertion fees. Take advantage of that and don't add any extras (like gallery or themes).

If doing auctions instead of BIN, Kimo's right definitely start them low. I usually start auction items at .95 as it seems to get the juices flowing.

Jeff
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Posted 06/19/2017   08:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SVTarHeel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that input Jeff - I didn't even know first flight covers existed. I'll keep an eye out as I go through these. I've been to the local stamp club's May meeting and will go again next week

I guess the main eBay options are... I can either sell in a few larger lots (the least time and work, but lesser return) or break them into smaller lots, down to individual covers for sale (requiring more effort but potentially greater revenue). I think, overall, the best approach at the outset would be a trial auction lot or two, just to see what the work/return ratio is likely to be.
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Posted 06/19/2017   10:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It largely depends of the value of your time. My time is worth more than a stack of common FDCs. I would sell them as a bulk lot at the stamp club and not look back.
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Posted 06/20/2017   12:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SVTarHeel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I spent about an hour tonight adding Scott numbers to some FDCs that he had in a separate binder and going through a couple dozen loose construction paper pages that weren't in one of his numbered binders. I did find one Reagan inauguration FDC but most of them seemed pretty routine.

One thing caught my eye though - there were a dozen or more from various Olympic issues as well as a handful of Christmas and Bicentennial stamps. Wouldn't it make more sense to group those for sale by that theme, rather than the ArtCraft, ArtMaster, etc., groups?
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Posted 06/20/2017   08:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jconey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sure you can group them any way you want. They might appeal to the topical collectors who are interested in those issues. Personally, while I do like and refer ArtCraft covers the maker is not a make or break it issue for me, but that's not how everyone feels. You might do a couple test lots and if they don't sell change the lots composition.

Like John Becker said. It depends on the value of your time.
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Posted 06/20/2017   2:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kimo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One other possibility - look around your city or area for a local stamp club. The American Philatelic Society can help you find one. Many such small clubs are happy to accept a donation of common material, not for themselves, but to use as give-aways to kids to encourage them to take up stamp collecting. You can then place a full value on the FDCs and claim them as a charitable deduction on your next tax returns (assuming you itemize your deductions). Or you can just give them away like that and know they will go to encourage kids to take up the hobby.
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