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Posted 11/12/2017   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JPMG to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you are concern about the price of ink cartridges, the Canon Pixma MegaTank series is using fix tanks what you refill with bottles of ink.





the G3200 is at $ 250 with a scaner, the G1200 is cheaper but without scaner

https://www.amazon.com/Canon-PIXMA-...dpSrc=detail




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Posted 11/12/2017   6:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another question re self-designed, self-printed pages:

Do you include catalogue numbers for each stamp location?

The problem, of course, is that catalogue numbers can change. Prior to arranging my stamps on new pages, I am renumbering them on the old album pages. My main interest is Australia and SG has renumbered them since I made up the pages in late 1976. The Australian Commonwealth Specialist Cataloge has had at least two numbering changes over this period.

Currently, I am considering a companion page for each album page with catalogue numbers. One of the advantages of this is that multiple numbers can be included, eg SG, Scott Nd ACSC together with addition information on the stamps without the album page becoming too busy.

Any thoughts, anyone?
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Posted 11/12/2017   8:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Walkman82 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For my pages, I design them with PowerPoint which has worked extremely well for me. I use 110lb cardstock in colors based on category, three hole punch with paper reinforcements (plastic tended to shed adhesive on the posts of my binders), and ShowGard for everything. The pages are printed with a Canon MG7720 inkjet printer. I prefer that to laser printers as the print from the later will come off with age.

I do not use Scott numbers, but do include relevant information on the bottom part of each space such as printer, press type, watermark, tagging, issue city, and issue date. By keeping the info on the bottom half of the space, I can lift the ShowGard and view the information for the issue.

Here's some samples of my pages:












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Posted 11/13/2017   10:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The question of whether or not album pages bleed printer ink might better be asked about whether printer ink bleeds on any paper. Album pages make up on the tiniest percentage of all the computer printing that is done. There are tens of millions of pages being printed on home and office printers every year, and I can't think of anything significantly different about album pages printed on home printers compared to all the other printing being done. Our test group should be all the pages being printed, not just album pages.

If we haven't already heard of ink bleeding under all normal circumstances (excluding extreme heat and moisture), the likelihood that it might happen would seem to be extremely small -- if it exists at all. Any album, no matter how its printed, can be damaged by moisture, extreme heat, mildew, mold, and other factors. If you keep your album in normal conditions, I'd bet it will have no problems.

I have a Scott National album I received as a child in 1960. That's 57 years ago, and it looks as good as new. And I've moved with it to new homes and cities at least 15 different times. It wasn't printed with computer printer ink, but I'd venture to say that albums printed on computer printers will survive just as well if they are also kept in a moderate temperature without high humidity. A much greater danger to computer printed pages is printing on acidic paper which will yellow badly and eventually disintegrate, transferring acids to the stamps themselves. There's nothing sadder in stamp collecting than looking through an old ruined album and seeing all the old, ruined stamps. Make sure all paper you print pages on is marked Acid-Free, at the very least.

As for printer ink, the companies that produce it know their product is being used for contracts, wills, licenses, and other legal documents and that it will be archived for many years. I imagine they've tested their ink and can guarantee it is safe. Checking web pages of major computer ink manufacturers for their testing regimes might be worth a look.

You could also do home tests. Print a dozen pages. Store them in a very hot location for a day, subject them to having heavy books stacked on top of them, and so forth. See if the ink migrates. You can't simulate aging, I suppose, but the ink manufacturers and the extensive use of computer printed documents (by the millions) would tell you a great deal about that.
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Posted 11/13/2017   11:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Do you include catalogue numbers for each stamp location?"

The more you add, the more cluttered the page gets. Also, the more you add that could change someday, the more headaches you may be creating for yourself. I'd be inclined to not add catalogue numbers, but if you did it's your album and I imagine that would be just fine. If I had to, I'd pencil them in lightly underneath where the stamp would be mounted just to help myself mount the stamps. I've seen some collectors' albums where they very neatly (and very lightly) penciled in the catalogue number beneath, or right below, each stamp. I'm not sure what purpose that serves. Maybe they were just bored?

Another option that just occurred to me is to make two sets of pages (electronically "copy" the set of pages to make a second document). On one document you can add numbers, on the other you don't. Print and mount your stamps on the one without numbers. Use the document with catalogue numbers (printed or not, it's up to you) as your reference to which stamp goes in which box. If the numbers do change, your actual album pages don't need to change because they have no numbers on them. You can change the numbers on the other set of pages if you really want to. In fact, that seems like the best choice of all. I'm glad I just thought of it.
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Posted 11/14/2017   06:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I always add catalogue numbers. My US collection is based upon Mystic's so I follow most of their style. If I was starting from scratch I would put the number below the stamp frame. I add varieties, etc. so having the number is important to me.

On my worldwide Steiner pages, I pencil them in under the stamp.


Example page..





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Posted 11/14/2017   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice page angore
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Posted 11/14/2017   10:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How do you create the page border in powerpoint??
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Posted 11/14/2017   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clivel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On my pages created with AlbumEasy I like to include underneath the stamp both the SG cat number as well as an appropriate cat number from a more specialised catalogue such as the SACC (South African Colour Catalogue).
In the areas I collect I find that some varieties are listed in SG, some in the specialised catalogue and some in both.
For example the page below - Rhodesia and Nyasaland World Tobacco Congress 1963 - with space for both the mint and used stamps, contains two varieties SACC-44a and SACC-45a which are not listed in Gibbons.



I use the inside of the stamp block for a description of the colour and denomination that will be the covered up by the stamp itself.
Clive

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Posted 11/14/2017   1:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Walkman82 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
mdroth - I created my page border in PowerPoint by drawing 3 rectangles. I right-click on each rectangle, choose "Format Shape..." and set the line width to (starting from the outside) 3.5 pt, 1 pt, and 2 pt. I also offset the page border slightly to the right on the paper to accommodate the 3-hole punch on the left side.
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Posted 11/14/2017   4:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a draft of which I think is pretty close to my standard format.



I use CorelDraw Home & Student which is a pretty good programme, though I do miss a lot of the features which were in the full CorelDraw set which I have used for something like 20 years.

Drawing the border is easy. I staru by making the outer frame line using "snap to grid". I then do the inner frame line, also snap to grid with a very fine grid, by drawing a multi-segment line. I finish off the fram by inserting a box at the top to hold the country name.

I'm still figuring out how much information about the stamps that I'll put on the page and am now leaning towards an information page for each page of stamps.
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Posted 11/14/2017   6:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
itma - very nice, ready for housing some nice stamps!
Which font are you using?
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Posted 11/14/2017   6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Blaamand:

It's Baker-Signet. I have been using it for almost 20 years. I bought if for our company logo and web site, but I think it is now in the public domain. To my mind it shouts high quality.

Frank.
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Posted 11/14/2017   6:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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. How do you create the page border in powerpoint??


Another option is to make a screenshot of any other frame you like, adjust the screenshot to match the page size and use it as background.

Btw - in PPT, add the frame to the 'slide master, and it will stay fixed while working on your pages.
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Posted 11/14/2017   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add will to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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For those looking for the next level in album pages, I would suggest getting a color laser printer. I purchased an HP M252dw.


Totally second this suggestion. One additional advantage is that this printer accepts ticker cardstocks. I've been using 65 lbs cardstock with no issue so far. I'm pretty sure it's not the ticker it can handle.

After a page is printed, I use Showgard mounts, black background. Sometimes pre-cuts sometimes strips (I use a cheap Fiskars guillotine to cut them and can't be happier!)

Finally, I put the page in a "clear super heavy weight" sheet protector. Originally I used AVERY PVH119 but I stopped using them: 1) Can't find them anymore and 2) Had bad experience with pages stored in them for 7-8 years. These sheets are supposed to last decades!

Now I'm using a cheaper version, from Office Depot. I can't say how good they are long term but they looks and feel exactly like the PVH119.

I store my pages in regular three ring binders or 1" or 1.5" depending on number of pages.
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