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Posted 02/12/2018   06:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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There is a mention of an unclaimed letter addressed to Abdul Goodfoor at Strawberry Hills (which is basically a part of Surry Hills) in 1892 in the New South Wales Government Gazette: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/...353/13087707


Extraordinary Bobby,
how did you find this? Could be very useful for Aussies.


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Posted 02/12/2018   4:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod,

Thank you - Sandwell Street for sure

If you look at google maps (or this: http://surry-hills-nsw.street-map.n...sandwell-st/)
the little road running between Sandwell and Fitzroy Streets is.....Farnell Street

As a small aside, the 1887 Sands Directory has no listings for even numbered houses in Sandwell Street (page 19 of the pdf)
http://cdn.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/...87-part2.pdf.

I found the undelivered letter list while looking for Abdul. The search page is here: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/?q=. I searched Abdul Surry Hills, clicked on the link to the Government Gazettes and saw there was a link to returned letters for 1892. Clicked on that and had to use ctrl+F and searched the page for Abdul.

There were only two matches, the one in the search bar and the one on the page. Hit the down arrow in the find box which brought up the link to 'Continued on page 6290', clicked on that and there it was! This will all be browser dependent of course but the gist will be roughly the same.

The reason I think it's Dari is because I searched "goodfoor" (including the inverted commas) in google and found a Ropasd Goodfoor in Afghanistan. I searched for Afghan languages and looked at the Pashto and Dari scripts. The latter looks far more likely than the former.


Hi Erilaz,

Yes our National Library is such a fabulous resource and thank you for posting the link

I've looked there countless times over the years and have saved many maps for future use. A lot of streets in Sydney city have disappeared, been realigned, renamed etc. Other historical and also parish maps can be found here: http://www.nswlrs.com.au/land_title.../parish_maps All part of the armoury of the Postal Historian!


Thank you all, what a wonderful community we have here

So, anyone know how to read Dari
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Posted 02/13/2018   01:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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the little road running between Sandwell and Fitzroy Streets is.....Farnell Street


Bobby,
do not understand your shock? Farnell Street?
enlighten me.

I did find Sandwell on street view, it looks like a tiny Laneway.

Probably at the time of your cover, it was a hive of industry.

Number 9 Sandwell , was a brewer of Cordials.........



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Bobby,
do not understand your shock? Farnell Street?
enlighten me.


Shock was probably a poor choice of emoticon.

More like ironic/amazing that the two streets we mentioned intersect. Right near the Cricketer's Arms Hotel but that's another story!

Great info on the cordial manufacturer too thank you To add to the irony/amazement, I grew up a stone's throw away from Dixon and Landsdowne Streets.
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Posted 02/13/2018   05:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erilaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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As a small aside, the 1887 Sands Directory has no listings for even numbered houses in Sandwell Street (page 19 of the pdf)
http://cdn.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/...7-part2.pdf.

The 1888 map likewise only shows odd-numbered buildings: https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-231087623/view
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The 1888 map likewise only shows odd-numbered buildings: https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-231087623/view


Fabulous map!

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This just gets curiouser and curiouser (Alice in wonderland)

Summons and Blackman, the cordial business, was down as 9 Sandwell street, yet the business on the map, shows it opposite in the even numbered side

Sandwell street today. (with obligatory grafitti)

The houses at the end of the street look like original 1890's homes

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Posted 07/20/2018   01:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a small update on this cover.

I showed this envelope to an Afghani friend of mine who said the language is neither Pashto or Dari. He actually said it looked like Thai or that part of the world.

With this, and following Rod's line of thinking, I looked at the languages in the regions east of India. If you turn my second scan upside down the language looks like Bengali.

An example from 1973:

https://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/201...-citizenship
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Posted 07/20/2018   01:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I don't think it is Thai.
A shame our member "Joy" has not seen this thread,
He has a fabulous knowledge of all things Indian.

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