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Posted 04/16/2018   11:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Why Oct 16, 1944? Ask the designer for the true answer, most any other is just guessing.

But I'll guess anyway, in decreasing order of probability, in my opinion.
1. The date in the postmark example the designer had handy. Keep it simple.
2. The designer's birthday or a significant date in his life. Designers are known to be sneaky.
3. Some significant date in military/postal history. I seriously doubt this because it would have been part of the publicity.
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Posted 04/16/2018   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



That is a link to British history..Might not have anything to do with Canada though Gilles le timbre

Thanks..Robert
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Posted 04/16/2018   12:08 pm  Show Profile Check watermark's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add watermark to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most cancelations affect the stamp in different areas because of stamp location on envelope or the cancelation hammer if used striking the stamp in the same identical place would be highly unlikely. The 1944 cancelation used in the design of the stamp is identical on all these stamps because it is part of the stamp design.
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Posted 04/16/2018   12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Robert:

I think this a reasonable question and reasonable answers. For this reason, I chose not to delete the thread as you requested.

I think your original title may have confused some of us and/or implied that you were asking something less than a serious question.

KirkS
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Posted 04/16/2018   12:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found it..

https://legionmagazine.com/en/2012/10/9295/


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OCTOBER 16, 1944: His Majesty's Canadian Ship Annan and HMCS Loch Achanalt are patrolling as part of Escort Group 6 in the Atlantic when they pick up a radar contact from a surfaced U-boat. The two frigates open fire and several crew on Annan are wounded by return fire. Annan sinks U-1006 with depth charges. Forty-six German submariners are rescued.


End of story
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Posted 04/16/2018   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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End of story


Pure Monday-morning quarterbacking. You have found a mere date coincidence to invent pseudo-history. Proof is to find is an actual story published near the time of the stamp's release which documents why the Oct 16, 1944 date was chosen. The link does not demonstrate that at all.

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Posted 04/16/2018   1:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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Pure Monday-morning quarterbacking. You have found a mere date coincidence to invent pseudo-history.


Thank you for your kind words John.

At least give me credit for trying to find out why they used that particular date.

Robert
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Posted 04/16/2018   4:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I always regret a war of words on this Forum. I participated and tried my best, so did wert.
Always figured we were not in a "find the proof" mode but one of "sharing info".

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Posted 04/16/2018   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is not intended to be a war of words. There are proper ways to establish facts. It's called good scholarship. Contemporary documentation has not been presented yet to verify any intent of the date on the stamp signifying anything. Wert's finding a reference to an event unrelated to the Canadian military postal operations and declaring an "end of story" makes no sense to establishing the truth here and I pointed that out. The first line of my original post still stands - ask the designer. Believe what you care to. My last post on the subject.
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Posted 04/16/2018   5:09 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We should remember that our posts are permanent and can be read for years to come. So definitive statements which are not verified are likely to be questioned. (As they should be.) All of this can easily be resolved by posting unverified statements as your opinion instead of factual.
Don
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Posted 04/16/2018   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow..now every one is coming down on me..all I asked was does ANYONE care to help me verify why the 1944 date was applied to a 1986 stamp.

Ya, you are right John..

Designed by Jacques DesRosiers
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The stamp image is based on a wartime photograph of military personnel handling letters and parcel.

It was printed to celebrate 75 years of Canadian Forces Postal Service, 1911-1986
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BUT, I can not find any info about this designer, so I will let it go for now..Thanks for those who tried to help.

Robert
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Posted 04/16/2018   10:44 pm  Show Profile Check Gilles le timbre's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I decided to go to the source and attached is a copy of the 2 descriptive pages from my 1986 annual collection.
The F.P.O. cancellation or Field Post Office cancellation mark was used in the UK and northwestern Europe between April 1944 and January 1946.

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Posted 04/17/2018   07:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gilles le timbre..Great foot work on this subject..Looks like they just used these same F.P.O. cancellation that they used in 1944 to explain the hardships they went through including colours that lend realism to what our soldiers endured.

My friend, I think you hit the nail on the head..Thanks so much..Now I can sleep..haha

Robert

P.S. Don and John Becker......are we still friends..?

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Posted 04/20/2018   12:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are two more "pre-cancellations"




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