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Angore, I really hope this isn't true about Gerben. His site is (was) fantastic, he helped me a lot and we shared much information. I wondered why he had been quiet for a while. Anyone have any more information?
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Tim, look at his site under "Health news".
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Oh dear. God rest his soul.
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Posted 05/16/2018   2:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobeid to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not a substitute for the very well done flow charts, but Linn's November, 2017 issue had a good feature on South Arabia. For some reason, I cannot figure out how to log on to Linn's website to view the issue now but I remember thinking the piece was informative.

Here is the caption from Linn's website:

Postal history of the revolution in South Arabia 1963-68

Spotlight on Philately columnist Ken Lawrence looks at Aden and South Yemen through postage stamps, covers, and letters that recorded the transition through British colonial rule, nationalist insurgency, federation, and communist revolutionary victory.
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Posted 05/16/2018   6:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
NIGELC uses the name ....KATHIRI STATE IN HADHRAMAUT . Then ROB ROY posts he never seen a stamp from that place.

I believe the state used a different name on its stamps . Here is my page and notice the spelling on the page and the stamps as QU'AITI STATE in HADHRAMAUT .
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Posted 05/16/2018   7:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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NIGELC uses the name ....KATHIRI STATE IN HADHRAMAUT . Then ROB ROY posts he never seen a stamp from that place.

Hi floortrader,

In his initial post Rob Roy posted that he had stamps from various places including the Kathiri State in Hadhramaut.

Here are three stamps with this wording from the Internet:



Quote:
I believe the state used a different name on its stamps . Here is my page and notice the spelling on the page and the stamps as QU'AITI STATE in HADHRAMAUT .

Qu'aiti and Kathiri were separate sultanates in the Hadhramaut region.

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Posted 05/16/2018   7:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Kathiri State:

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Posted 05/16/2018   7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My original error...
http://goscf.com/t/10974 br /

How I have my current Albums

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Sorry for being unclear. In StampWorld, under Kathiri state in Hadhrmaut, none of the stamps are inscribed with it.
In my own collection, I didn't see such stamp because I'm rather a small collector.
So there are such stamps, and they fit somewhere in the sequence. I checked my simplified Scott and S&G and couldn't find them.
Maybe they are considered Cinderrelas.
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Posted 05/16/2018   9:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that correction ,let me check around and see if I have the other states in the morning .
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Quote:
Maybe they are considered Cinderrelas.


That lies within personal opinion.
Genuine postage may be doubtful.

If you look at my computer list, the country name "Kathiri State of Seiyun"
was renamed in 1967 to "Kathiri State of Hadhramaut"

These are listed in Michel Catalogue (Gulf States) A well used, and appreciated, free gift from "Postmaster GS"

numbers 164 through 224
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Kathiri State of Seiyun ..1967 (Kathiri State of Hadhramaut) shown here.

Source: "The Stamp Atlas" Rossiter / Flower

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Posted 05/17/2018   05:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod,

I'm a big fan of The Stamp Atlas but this map has a few problems:

- The Kathiri State arrow is pointing at the wrong town, well outside Kathiri territory. Seiyun is shown on the map posted by perf12.

- I think labelling the town of Mukalla as "Qu'aiti" is confusing (although Mukalla was its capital).

- Quishn is misspelt "Quishu" on the map and in the text.

- It's a pity there isn't a location marked for Upper Yafa which is mentioned on a later page.

Here's the Wikipedia page on Upper Yafa with a map showing it as the only state in the Western Protectorate not to join the Federation of South Arabia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Yafa
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Posted 05/17/2018   06:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Nigel,
Yes, it seems it should be, about 300km East.
I still think "Seiyun" would be correct if it was.
(On the western border of Kathiri) (Atlas also spelt incorrectly)


I had that wiki map in my Upper Yafa Folder.

Upper Yafa Post only between Sept and December 1967

I recall back in 2004 ? the Late Mette Heindorff was chasing a Hans Christian Anderson mini sheet, from Upper Yafa

Here is Blair's response (Canada)
WARNING: All the links will now be dead.


Mette wrote:
> A collector from Singapore has notified me that there should be a HCA-issue
> (2005) from Upper Yafa of face value 4v.. With regard to updating the
> checklist I have searched various sources on the Internet, but have been
> unable to find any images. Can any of you help, or point me to an
> appropriate link?
>
> Thanks in advance :-)
> Mette

Hello Mette:

Any issue from the genuine state of Upper Yafa
dated after 1967 is bogus,

It was part of the South Arabian Protectorate and
absorbed (1967) into the PR of Southern Yemen
(later became the PDRY). In 1990 North and
South Yemen merged to form the Republic of
Yemen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:...rabiaMap.jpg

Genuine postal service was short lived in 1967,
but the first Upper Yafa issue did see postal use
for a few months.

http://www.geocities.com/uy77sv/UY-1967-defins.htm

I have a genuine commercial cover buried somewhere
in my hoard of covers.

On September 30, 1967, the Sultanate of Upper Yafa,
the only western state under the Protectorate not to
accept integration in the Federation, issued a series
of 10 stamps from 5 to 500 fils (airmail from 75 to
500 fils) depicting a map of the state and its flag,
as well as the state's coat-of-arms.

At the same time, the forces of the National Liberation
Front had succeeded in pushing aside the Liberation
Front of Occupied South Yemen, taking control of the
small sultanate of 600 square miles.

With American assistance, the Sultanate later (1967)
issued 12 thematic series representing a total of
72 stamps. The large majority of these thematic
vignettes were never used for valid postage.
http://i19.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/77/e0/833d_1_b.JPG
http://www.filkomstamps.com/060319le034.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/uy77sv/UY-Stamps-1967.htm

Many years later, (1998-2005) a private individual in N.Z.
took the name Sultanate of Upper Yafa to create a
cinderella state with new "stamps". The currency was
in Omani Riyals.
http://www.geocities.com/uy77sv/
http://www.sedang.hm/Upperyafa/Stamps00.htm

Your 2005 HCA cinderellas are from this source.

22nd August 2005 - Hans Andersen bicentennial.

30 baiza Multicolored View photo of stamp
150 baiza Multicolored View photo of stamp
1 Riyal Multicolored View photo of stamp

http://www.geocities.com/uy77sv/UY-05-andersen.htm

First Day Cover
(1.180 Riyals + 0.150 Riyals = 1.330 Riyals about US $4.83)
http://www.geocities.com/uy77sv/UY-...sen-FDC2.jpg
One Riyal = 1000 baizas = US $3.62
I hope this helps you.
Blair

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Posted 05/17/2018   09:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A 1939 postal union made the issues from Aden and the emirates valid in all of the colony and protectorate of Aden.(StampWorldHistory).
A simple map for Aden Protectorate.





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