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Posted 07/08/2018   07:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Another dislike for eBay,
once something is sold now, you cannot see the original listing, it takes you elsewhere to try and make another sale..........

Sold $15 AUD

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Posted 07/08/2018   4:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add raymodj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The first 3 stamps in the series all have variants like this - overprinted on a different stamp. You rarely see these...


I didn't pay attention in math class, but I have been paying more attention to Turkish overprints. I thought that was an unusual combination but had to look up the Scott#.

Rod, I hate that too. There is a way past it, but eBay doesn't want it to be obvious. Click on the word "listing" to see the closed auction.
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Posted 07/08/2018   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DrewM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Usually the amount due for sending the letter was written on the letter, then paid to the clerk and sent into the mail system.

The practice you mention on eBay is very recent, in the last few weeks I think. You open a listing that has sold, expecting to see what it sold for, and you get redirected to a different listing to bid on. This is their way of trying to get you to bid on something else, but it's pretty insulting in a way since they're not respecting their bidders' need to find out what happened to a listing. The way around it is to 'copy' the tiny listing number if you know it, paste it in the 'search' function, check the box for 'completed listings' and then hist the search button. It will open up the completed listing and you can see the price it sold for. Or you can type in the description of the item and do the same thing. Far too much work, though, just so eBay can rather stupidly offer you a "similar" item which will be an entirely different stamp and not a "similar" item at all. They do seem clueless.
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Posted 07/08/2018   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks Guys,


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Click on the word "listing" to see the closed auction.


Could not see that at all.

My workaround?
I save important auctions on "watched Item", that will at least give you the sale price. I always like to see the bidding activity.



I find eBay and Hipstamp irritating with their 1000's of common stamps individually listed.
I have bought only circa 380 lots from eBay in 15 years, so that reflects that.

Hipstamp still refuses to be able to block certain sellers.

Still, eBay seems to get good prices for stuff, this sheet I get from my dealer at $2, currently on eBay for $14

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Posted 07/09/2018   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Market watch.
Still strong interest in Oz for Turkey, some good prices fetched, and the occasional bargain.

Sold $48 (Sc#11 and 64 has a CV of $92 for the brace)



Good price for this Postal Tax minisheet $22



My bid of $1 was gazumped, these sheets sold for $1.25

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Post offices in the Levant.
Great Britain
1885
Steiner Page 39.

Completed Page CV : $2,085 Used $854



1902
Steiner Page 40.

Completed Page CV : $1,690 Used $920 (Used attracting a higher value than mint, in most cases)



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Nice British Offices Rod .
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Posted 07/10/2018   9:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks for kind words Floortrader.

Thanks to Scott Catalogue, Mr. William Steiner, and SCF Forum.
Had a bunch, not all, of these hidden in glassines for years, on discovering the above, am able to let them blossom on pages, and show to the world.

Nearly as pretty as your Russian pages....

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Posted 07/11/2018   8:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Would any members explain exactly what a "declared value cover" is, please?
Exploring possible uses of the high value Ay Yildiz issues.

Sc#621 1923 50pi P13.25 Nazmi Print thin grey paper RODOSTO (Tekirdag)
CV in mint condition $75

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Posted 07/11/2018   9:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PostmasterGS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod,

I‘ve heard that term in the context of insurance on a package. You have to declare a value so they know how much to charge for additional insurance. No idea if that would be applicable in Turkey circa 1923.
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Posted 07/11/2018   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cheers Postmaster,
I thought that was it, I had come across "Money Letters" too,
So it is a kind of mixture Parcel Value or sending money I guess.

Declared Value cover Venezuela



Turkey (Cherrystone auctions)



The First Postal Law of the Republic of Turkey, November 26, 1923:
One of the first laws the young Republic passed was the Postal Law Posta İdaresinin Vezaifi ile Hukuk ve Selahiyetiof November 26, 1923 which included a comprehensive rate schedule for domestic mail. However,Article 9 gave the authority to determine the postal rates for foreign mail to the Government rather than the Grand National
Assembly (Hükümet, memalik-i ecnebiyye ile olan posta münasebetini posta ittihad-ı umumisi esasatına göre hususi itilafat ile tanzime ve itilafat-ı mezkure mucibince Türkiye'de istifası lazım gelecek ücüretin tayinine selahiyetdardır).
The new rate schedule kept the domestic single letter rate at 5 kurus but increased the unit weight of a single letter as per 20 grams or a fraction thereof instead of 15 grams as in the rate schedule of June 6, 1921 and also kept the domestic postcard rate unchanged at 3 kurus. The registration fee was also 5 kurus. The first Postal Law also included special rates for newspapers and for magazines published at
least once every three months (10 para), printed matter packages and commercial samples (2 kurus per 50 grams or a fraction thereof with a minimum of 5 kuruº), printed material for the blind (one kurus per 500 grams), and value declared letters (in addition to 5 kurus for the letter and 5 kurus for the registration fee, 3 kurus up to 300 kurus declared value and one kurus per 100 kurus or a fraction thereof). Postage due was twice the amount shortpaid but not less
than 3 kurus.

Source:
POSTAL RATES OF THE REPUBLIC OF TURKEY
1920-1960
M. Yavuz Corapcioglu, Ph.D.
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Eastern Rumelia.
A Motley Crew.....the Nadir of Stamp collecting.
Possibly only 4 genuine stamps amongst this lot.
Shows what generally ends up B.o.b. (Back of book)

Barred Pmks possibly Spiro forgeries.

The 1pi 1884 Blue and Bistre, goodness knows what that is.........

1880
Steiner Page 2.



1885
Steiner Page 4.



Typical Spiro Forgeries and forged Pmks.

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Postmarks.
Gare Sirkedji (Istanbul Railway Station)




Unknown : Perhaps a GERMAN mark ?


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Rod,

It is a German cancel. There were several variants of this cancel used in Munich (München or Muenchen) in the period from about 1885-1905.


The "B.Ü." stands for "Briefpost-Übernahme", which I believe refers to postal acceptance or transfer. I'm not really familiar with the term, and it doesn't translate directly.
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It is a German cancel. There were several variants of this cancel used in Munich (München or Muenchen) in the period from about 1885-1905.


Item is Sc#100 A10 1892 5 para on 10pa surcharge.

Wow!
Postmaster, you really come up with the goods sometimes.
I find this really exciting.
Going to have an album page, may forward it on to the ONEPS Journal.

Thanks so much.

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