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Albania - Mirdite (Mirdita, Mirdites) Republic - History

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Posted 02/05/2013   09:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ERIC ----After reading your write up and scans of your pages ,I decided to straighten out what I have in various albums and stockbooks and mount them .I found very little on the internet about the subject other than repeats of the same information.


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Posted 02/05/2013   09:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the second page.


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Posted 02/05/2013   09:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the first page of the postage dues .


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Posted 02/05/2013   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the fourth page of my collection,these are also the postage dues.

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Posted 02/05/2013   10:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EricBismarck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Floortrader - I LOVE this... Love the way you laid out the various reprint varieties....

This is Great!

I just recently acquired a group of these with the "Orash" - CTO Cancel... Once they arrive I will post scans

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Posted 02/05/2013   10:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EricBismarck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Orosh" sorry

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Posted 02/05/2013   10:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
glad you like those pages ,looking forward to your scans .Were going to have the best reference source for those issues on the web if others add to this link over time with their material.
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Posted 02/09/2013   10:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ERIC-----Can you change the spelling in your title or add the spelling ----MIRDITA REPUBLIC ----it will then show up in google searchs ,thanks
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Posted 02/09/2013   10:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EricBismarck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep - just changed.. I did: Albania - Mirdite (Mirdita, Mirdites) Republic - History

I've seen those 3 spellings..
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Posted 02/09/2013   11:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks -----I think tomorrow I'll run one of my typical rants here , {on the main page} about using different spellings and correct titles so that they are searchable on the main search engines .I think it will bring more people to this web site.
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Posted 02/09/2013   11:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My question: are these stamps really "bogus"? Are they not just "unissued", since there is evidence they were intended to be placed in use.
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Posted 02/09/2013   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EricBismarck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thats an open question I think. There are a few schools of thought I think on the issue:

1. One resource I found says that the stamps were Ordered, but the printer was never paid. The printer then decided to sell them to collectors, applied handstamps to create more varieties, and even CTO Cancelled them in Orosh

2. Never were ordered, and were "bogus" issues created after the rebellion was over.


Wish I had the answer. I hope it's #1, but it could also be #2. For sure, I think that the Handstamps and CTO Cancels are probably bogus.
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Posted 02/17/2013   8:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EricBismarck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Some information from the book: "Geheimnisvolles Briefmarkenland Albanien" (Mysterious Stamp Albania)
http://books.google.com/books?id=1M...ge&q&f=false


What do you make of the following????

German:

Wieder kam es zu Unruhen. Diesmal zu dem oben bereits erwahnten Aufstand der Mirditen. Mirdit kann man mit der Brave ubersetzen. Der Stamm gehorte der Romisch-Katholischen Kirche an. Dokumente zu den Augstanden 1921/22 sind die als Mache im Michel unter Mirditische Republik aufgefuhrten Mirditen-Ausgaben. Aus dem Michel Europa 1925 geht noch hervor. Ausgabedatum Dezember 1921.


Laut seinerzeitiger Katalogisierung wurden mit den Portomarken zusammen immerhin elf Werte zu 5, 10, 25, 50 Quit und 1 Frank sowie ein Uberdruckwert 25 Quint auf 1 Frank gedruckt. Wahrend der Unruhen bestand ein Revolutionskomitee. Ein echt gelaufener Brief nach Munchen mit Mirditen-Marken wird im Kohl-Handbuch von 1925 mit dem Stempel Oroshi - 15.1.22 erqahnt. Im Marz 1922 mubte das rupublikanische Revolutionskmoitee abdanken. immerhin haben damit die Mirditen in ihrem Stammesgeibiet - Furstensitz Oroshi - drei Monate die Posthoheit ausgeubt. Welche Marken wirklich kursierten und ob es uberhaupt einen Postdienst gab, ist night bekannt. Ohne die Ausgaben ware der Zeitabschnitt wohl philatelistisch schwerer zu deuten. Sollten die Katalogredaktionen solch eine Ausgabe - wenn auch ohne Bewertung - nicht doch wieder in den Katalog aufnehmen? Nach meiner Meinung ist die Ausgabe postalischer als mancher Devisen-Bringer gewisser Lander.




Translated (best I could with Google Translate):

Again there were riots. This time to the already above mentioned uprising Mirditen. Mirdit can translate to the Brave. The tribe belonged to the Romisch Catholic Church. Documents on Augstanden 1921/22 are as mongering in Michel aufgefuhrten under Mirditische Republic Mirditen spending. From Michel Europe 1925 can be seen still. Issued December 1921.


According to his time catalogare 5, 10, 25, 50 and 1 Quit Frank and an overpressure value of 25 to 1 Frank Quint were printed. While the unrest was a revolutionary committee. A really overflowed letter to Munich with Mirditen brands is in the Kohl-Handbuch from 1925 with the stamp Oroshi - erqahnt 01/15/22. In March 1922 mubte abdicate the rupublikanische Revolutionskmoitee. after all, so the Mirditen have in their Stammesgeibiet - Furstensitz Oroshi - exercised three months post-sovereignty. What really marks circulated and if at all there was a postal service is known night. Without spending the time period would probably interpret philatelic harder. If the catalog editors such an issue - albeit without review - but do not resume in the catalog? In my opinion the issue is as some postal currency bringer of certain countries.



This seems to suggest there is a letter somewhere that was franked with one of these stamps???





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Posted 08/15/2013   11:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Timm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Floortrader:
The pictures are very helpful but it is still hard to to tell the difference between originals, reprint I and reprint II.

This where a written description in detail somewhere to tell the difference?
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Posted 08/16/2013   09:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EricBismarck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A while back, I won an auction for some more of these stamps - I haven't gotten them fully organized yet and scanned, BUT, the auction came with 2 old article clippings, the source of which I do not know.

The first has a description of the issues, the second describes a method for telling the originals from the forgeries.

See the scans below. I hope this helps!

The first article mentions a reference to Schweizer Briefmarken-Zeitung : Which is aSwiss Stamps Newspaper (Association of Swiss Philatelic clubs) published since 1875
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwei...rken_Zeitung













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