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Posted 04/27/2009   12:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ikandiggit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message
I have a couple of these that came in a collection that I bought. It has a semi-glossy finish to it, a gummed back and is unused. I found some examples on different web-sites that date it to 1867 Roman States. The one I have is "imperforated" and one site gives it a value- unused $40 and used $334.50.

Needless to say I'm thrilled

If I'm in error, let me know. I'd appreciate help from those more knowledgeable.

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Posted 04/27/2009   03:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jan-Simon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to say this, but it looks like a very crude forgery to me.
And I know I should be checking the catalog first before saying anything, but shouldn't the centisimi issues be perforated?
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Posted 04/27/2009   04:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, definitely a fake.

In another thread, I mentioned that early Persia and Roman States are dominated by reprints/counterfeits/forgeries.
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Posted 04/27/2009   04:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Sorry to say this, but it looks like a very crude forgery to me.
And I know I should be checking the catalog first before saying anything, but shouldn't the centisimi issues be perforated?

You were correct in identifying it as a forgery. And your memory isn't too shabby...

first issue (1867) imperforate
second issue (1868) perf 13

perforated reprints, usually but not always perf 11.5
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Posted 04/27/2009   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikandiggit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I had a feeling about this one. It seemed too perfect and the finish didn't seem right. It stood out from all the other stamps in the box. I also have a few Persian stamps that I'll have to have a look at.
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Posted 04/27/2009   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Be prepared for a big headache if you want to weed your Persian stamps. Many of the overprints are quite crude (in terms of quality), so sometimes it's hard to say if it's a fake overprint or just a lousy genuine overprint. On some issues, numerous reprints exist, but in many cases the reprints were unauthorized. But since the reprints were made from the original "stones/plates", sometimes the only way to distinguish is the color shade or paper (both difficult to do based on scans alone).

Of course, some collector enjoy weeding their Persian stamps, so enjoy...!
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Posted 10/04/2010   4:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add svetlina12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey guys ,
what about those stamps,fake too?

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Posted 10/04/2010   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamp Virgin, did you send me fake Roman states?
mine are all perforated, I'll scan them tomorrow when I'm off

I want my .07 cents back,
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Edited by Edwin - 10/04/2010 4:57 pm
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Posted 10/04/2010   11:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Stamp Virgin, did you send me fake Roman states?


I wonder what the record is for shortest APS membership duration in history?

Anyone know if you get your entire membership fee back if you're drummed out in your first quarter? They probably prorate...




C.


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Posted 10/05/2010   10:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Edwin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
HAHA.... I wouldn't do that... we all know what we get for .01 a stamp...

I was just poking him in he ribs a little..
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Posted 10/05/2010   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
edwin.. you got the perfed variety so stop complaining

cj that is not even funny...
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Edited by stampvirgin - 10/05/2010 11:02 am
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Posted 04/05/2013   2:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joliferi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Hello, I have this stamp in a very good condition.
What the marker value this stamp?
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Posted 04/05/2013   6:58 pm  Show Profile Check stallzer's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like a reprint
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Posted 04/06/2013   01:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joliferi to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I make a photo today, this picture just a link.
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Posted 04/06/2013   02:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I noticed the delcampe at the bottom of the pic.

You need to provide the pic of YOUR stamp, because the great majority of these stamps are either reprints or forgeries.
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Posted 04/06/2013   08:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don't mean to be a wet blanket..but I believe that the reprints and fakes also have some value..fakes,reprints whatever I still filled a few spaces in my Roman States !
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