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Scott's Catalogue Organization Of Canada & Provinces

 
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Posted 08/17/2009   01:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add warrehouse to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
In an earlier poll we had a unanimous vote into organizing the Italian & German States to proceed the country in Scott's Catalogue as they currently do.

With the followup to that was should Heligoland and Lombardy & Venetia also be included with those respective state groups and again
all those whom voted agreed they should.

So now let's look at other possibilities such as Canada and it's forerunner provinces, colonies & territories.

Should Scott's Catalogue reorganized the Canadian provinces in front of Canada itself as they currently do with German States & Italian States?
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Posted 08/17/2009   01:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, it makes sense to me, but isn't it already done in the specialized catalogue, or don't they publish one anymore?
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Posted 08/17/2009   01:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe the Scott's has a Canada Specialize Catalogue.
But what I'm refering to is their general catalogues.

Thanks for your input! WpgLwr
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Posted 08/17/2009   03:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jan-Simon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I thought Scott had already grouped New Brunswick etc. under Canadian provinces in front of Canada, but obviously I am wrong?
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Posted 08/17/2009   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No not Obvious! Jan-Simon. I've not seen any of the newer Scott's so it's not imposssible they have already done this.

Mike
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Posted 08/17/2009   1:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jan-Simon to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have checked to be sure: The 2008 Scott's I have already have Canadian provinces grouped together and put in front of Canada.
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Posted 08/17/2009   2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Jan-Simon
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Posted 08/18/2009   05:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Originally they were not, but the Canadian provinces have been regrouped in front of Canada for several years (at least since 2005, my earlier catalogs are in storage; I think it happened just 1-3 years before that).

As far as I know, Scott no longer prints the Canada Specialized catalog. It was one of their first color catalogs. My oldest color Scott Canada specialized is 1982, a good 23 years before the US specialized came out in color.
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Posted 08/18/2009   10:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Giles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stanley Gibbons has been using this format for years... I like it.

The Specialised Catalogue for Canada is now the Unitrade Canada Specalised Catalogue. See Harry's posts earlier regarding "Looking for a Canadian Catalogue".

David
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Posted 08/18/2009   1:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Say David, Does the Unitrade include precancels in the specialized version or do you have to get it in a separate catalogue.

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Posted 08/18/2009   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add djd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Precancel pricing
The "Unitrade specialized" only price the most common type.
The Precancel Book "The standard Canada precancel catalogue 5th edition"
is the book for other town precancels.
excuse the british spelling.
David (DJD)
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Posted 08/19/2009   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, DJD aka David, I already have that precancel catalog, I was looking for another reason to get the specialized catalog.
Pardon the American spelling!
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Posted 08/20/2009   5:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
G'Day all just thought I'd mention that the 2009 Harris catalogue has Canada first and then the provinces behind,the Unitrade also has the provinces at the back of the book,so is the Scott catalogue the only catalogue with the provinces in the front

regards Harry

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Posted 08/20/2009   6:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When Scott published their Canada Specialized catalog, the provinces were after the main Canada listings, but that was quite a while back.

When Scott started moving "provinces" and "early states" listings with the country, they mostly put them before the main listing. The reason being that those stamps were (in general) issued before unified stamp issues began for that country. These original issuing entities (provinces/states) then became the equivalent of "dead countries".

When a territory or locality continues to issue stamps or issues stamps AFTER unified issues, then Scott lists them like BOB, after the main listings. These often will either have the prefix 1L, 2L..., 1N, 2N... or a completely independent numbering (no letter prefix; an example is the Grenadines issues).

That's VERY roughly the general Scott policy. But, as I have mentioned before, the one thing Scott is very consistent on is being inconsistent.
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Posted 08/20/2009   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nuggethill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback K,sounds like they did the Canadian catalogue exactly the same way they did the Aussie one.

regards Harry

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