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Specimen Stamps - Clarifying Their Use

 
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Posted 07/18/2012   11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add kirks to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I didn't want to hijack the Peru thread, but I have a question about Specimen Stamps.

Specifically, Smauggie said

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These are stamp specimens. That means that they were produced as a test, to see how they would look. The "SPECIMEN" overprint testifies to that fact.


Smauggie is smarter than I, but I'm not sure I agree with that statement. I think he is describing TEST stamps or maybe even PROOFs.

I thought -SPECIMEN stamps were provided to other country's postal administration as "examples" or "specimens" for identification purposes.

Can anyone give me more details.
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Posted 07/18/2012   11:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HungaryForStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
LINN's glossary:

"Stamp or stationery item distributed to Universal Postal Union members for identification purposes and to the philatelic press and trade for publicity purposes."

http://www.linns.com/reference/term...irstletter=s

British Postal Museum website's glossary:

"Under the rules of the UPU all issues of stamps issued by its members must be circulated through its offices to other member countries. Such stamps are usually overprinted or perfined "Specimen" (2) Sample stamps usually overprinted "Specimen" distributed free via the philatelic press or to the trade. Also overprinted officially by postal administrations to prevent re-use"

http://www.postalheritage.org.uk/pa...m=S&doSearch
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Posted 07/18/2012   11:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's some of what Scott says about specimens:
'The Universal Postal Union required member nations to send samples of all stamps they released into service to the International Bureau in Switzerland. Member nations of the UPU received these specimens as samples of what stamps were valid for postage. Many are overprinted, handstamped or initial-perforated "Specimen," "Canceled" or "Muestra."'

'The previously described defacement markings prevent postal use, and all such items generally are known as "specimens."'

Regards, Robert
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Posted 07/18/2012   11:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is quite true, but not all SPECIMEN overprints or perfins were intended for the UPU.

This Cochin SPECIMEN



can't have been sent to the UPU, because Cochin wasn't a member. It would have been made by Perkins, Bacon as a sample of their work. (It's in the issued colour and perforation, and on the correct watermarked paper.)
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Posted 07/19/2012   12:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, I was getting proof and specimen confused.
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Posted 07/19/2012   08:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott's explanation of specimen stamps included printer samples. I didn't quote that part.
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Posted 07/19/2012   1:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
By the way -- Smauggie -- I wasn't questioning your wisdom, just my own confusion

Good info -- thanks everyone.
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Posted 07/19/2012   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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By the way -- Smauggie -- I wasn't questioning your wisdom, just my own confusion


No offense taken, Kirk.

Sometimes my wisdom does need questioning from time to time.

Just to keep it sharp you know.
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Posted 07/19/2012   2:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Specimen's were also supplied from one entity to another for national collections.
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