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Banknotes Needed (1870-71 No Secret Marks)

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Posted 12/18/2011   9:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This is what I'm referring to. Moderators if there is a better place to put this please feel free to do so.

I apologize for being so vague on my original posting.

Banknotes both large and small (without the triangles)


Bureau issued "Banknotes" (Banknotes with the little triangle thingies in corners)



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Posted 12/19/2011   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
so what's the problem here? Need scott numbers?
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Posted 12/19/2011   08:52 am  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you are talking about the small banknotes, Scott 219-229. I think I can supply you with a complete set packaged in a 1998 Scott U.S. Specialized catalogue. What are your actual needs?
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Posted 12/19/2011   08:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the others are a little confused -- as am I.

Threads here usually come in two basic forms
1. Member asks a question, and we all try to answer
2. Member posts a scan of interest, and we all ooh and aah

You've done neither

I assume you don't want to buy banknotes (since you're in the Discussion Forum).

Do you want to see scans of banknotes?
Do you need catalog numbers/values for your banknotes?
I find all the banknotes a little confusing: large, small, etc. Do you need help or clarification?

As a percentage, there are very few "unanswered" posts on SCF, so if you can give us a better subject line and/or a few sentences in your original post, you'll get a much better reply rate.

KirkS


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Posted 12/19/2011   6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mike33 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
here are mine :

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Posted 12/19/2011   8:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
the above sets is what I'm talking about. those are what I be needing.
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Posted 12/20/2011   10:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the others are a little confused -- as am I.

Threads here usually come in two basic forms
1. Member asks a question, and we all try to answer
2. Member posts a scan of interest, and we all ooh and aah

You've done neither

I assume you don't want to buy banknotes (since you're in the
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Discussion Forum).

Do you want to see scans of banknotes?
Do you need catalog numbers/values for your banknotes?
I find all the banknotes a little confusing: large, small, etc. Do you need help or clarification?

As a percentage, there are very few "unanswered" posts on SCF, so if you can give us a better subject line and/or a few sentences in your original post, you'll get a much better reply rate.

KirkS


I apologize very much. I had a VERY terrible day so I scanned what I have in the original post (above) and the missing ones, obvioulsly, is what I need. I am willing to both trade and/or buy. So if thhis thread needs moved then by all means do so. Maybe I can myself?
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Posted 12/20/2011   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I re posted the updated top post in the wanted to buy section but can't seem to find the little trashcan icon to delete this thread. I feel really stupid right now and I'm very sorry. Your Friend (I hope) -Jeff
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Posted 12/20/2011   11:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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can't seem to find the little trashcan icon to delete this thread


Jeff, the delete option is only available to you as long as no one has responded to your post. We're all entitled to a bad day every so often and if you have to feel stupid, what better place to do so than among friends and family. Steve
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Posted 12/20/2011   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Jeff:

I just re-read this entire thread and I want to apologize -- I didn't mean to come across as the "Sentence Police"

I was trying to be helpful/constructive, but I don't think it came across that way. I think the bottom line on the whole issue is that you were thinking "Want to Buy" and I was thinking discussion? Either way, it's not a big deal.

And back to the real issue of the post... I've been trying for a LONG time to get all those banknotes in my album, but like you, I find they continue to elude me

Kirk
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Posted 12/20/2011   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeff. Are you looking for the large bureaus as well? I've got an extra indigo Grant (#216) you can have gratis if you want it. Also an extra Jackson (#178) but it looks like your all set for that one. Drop me an email if you're interested.
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Posted 12/20/2011   12:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jeff/ILS:

I'm glad you started another thread in "Wanted to Buy" but I'm going to continue this one with some general information and questions.

You've probably seen this, there may be others who have not.

Below are a few images from the U.S. Design Series. Note, these are not Scott numbers but show the basic designs of all the large banknotes. For more about the PSE and Design Numbers, see my older thread
https://goscf.com/t/4305

The Large Banknote Series is dated 1870 to 1889. As shown in the scan, it started out with these First Designs of 1870



In 1875, there were Interim Designs.



And the Final Designs were introduced in 1887.



Again, no Scott numbers here, but maybe some clarification of the issues we're talking about.

Finally, I have a QUESTION for the smart people..

Why were the subsequent designs introduced?

Perhaps there was a rate change/increase that created the need for a 5¢ stamp -- I can understand that. Buy why TWO different 5¢ stamps?

And the 2¢ -- why so many different designs? Aren't these color changes were pre-UPU?

I guess I need to head over to http://www.1847usa.com/ and read up on my postal history

KirkS
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Posted 12/20/2011   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Why were the subsequent designs introduced?

Perhaps there was a rate change/increase that created the need for a 5¢ stamp -- I can understand that. Buy why TWO different 5¢ stamps?


This article will explain it:

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Posted 12/20/2011   7:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info, WT1
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Posted 12/20/2011   9:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add luciano29 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Amigos,

Sorry but I have a question for you; Were the National and American Banknote Company the same? Wich is the difference?

My question is based in the interest in the series issued by these companies wich issued Argentina stamps as well.

My best.

Luciano.
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Posted 12/20/2011   10:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Message sent James and wow what an informative post this turned out to be! Thank you everyone for the education! -Jeff
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