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Kans./Nebr. - Remove Hinge - Not Disturb Gum?

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Posted 03/14/2015   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add walkabout to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Seems that there is a set each of the Kansas and Nebraska overprints. They look to be real (rotary press, 11 x 10 1/2, 14 lines gum, one gum break, colors, well, I'm not good at those, yet.) , but the question applies whether or not. They all have a hinge on the back. Could the hinge be removed safely without disturbing the gum? If so, could someone please tell me how? Also, for stamps that are gummed and have a watermark, is it safe to 'Ronsonol' for the watermark and not disturb the gum?

Thank you for any input.



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Posted 03/14/2015   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The gum indicates that they are genuine. The hinges can be removed using a small artists paintbrush and a LOT of patience, however this requires practice and is not something just done without both it and a steady hand.
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Posted 03/14/2015   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yakboomer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ronsonol or any watermark fluid is perfectly safe for your stamps.
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Posted 03/14/2015   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
revcollector - Thank you. The hand is still steady but I will have to work on the patience. However, it is nice to know that 'someone' can do it, should they desire. I'm not really sure that is an expected part of my job description on this particular one. I gather that the endeavor would entail moistening the hinge only just enough to have it 'let go' a little bit at a time. I'll see if I can find an overview - with at least a little depth - regarding the different types of adhesives used and how they would react to different fluids.

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Posted 03/14/2015   10:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yakboomer - Thank you. I wish they were my stamps, should I need to use it where there is a concern for the glue. Especially if it is a good stamp with good glue. I think I'm going to have to find some play stamps with which to experiment. However, your reassurance is appreciated.
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Posted 03/14/2015   11:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the hinges I think it all depends what your intentions are. If you plan on selling them then I would leave them be and let the next owner decide. If I were to keep them I would probably very, very carefully remove them as they will leave a mark so the hinges are not being removed to deceive anyone but rather for preservation purposes.
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Posted 03/14/2015   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stallzer - Thank you for your response. I will leave the hinges for the new owner to deal with as they see fit and as fits their situation. It is mainly to know whether they can be removed that I ask. I've not had a lot of experience (basically none) with the gum on stamps and I don't know how it acts and reacts. I'll have to see about getting some info on the adhesives. Thank you, again, for your response.
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The hinges can be removed using a small artists paintbrush


revcollector, could you expand on this method step by step?

If you apply a moistened hinge to the back of a gummed stamp, the glue on the hinge will become "part of" the gum on the back of the stamp, and vice versa. How does this produce the result of a stamp with undisturbed gum?


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Posted 03/15/2015   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I never said the gum would be undisturbed, just that the hinge can be removed this way.
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Posted 03/15/2015   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Ronsonol or any watermark fluid is perfectly safe for your stamps.


Safe? Ronsonol is safe, but do not let them sit in the fluid for a lengthy period of time. Make it as short as possible. On one occasion I failed to see how the stamp was cancelled and what ever it was "ran" and discolored the stamp. And before anyone asks, it was a Washington-Franklin issue and no, it was not an aniline dye variety; it only bled where the cancellation was located.

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Posted 03/16/2015   02:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hal - That's interesting about the bleed where the cancellation was. Sounds like something in the makeup of the ink for the cancel didn't sit well with the Ronsonol. Thank you for the heads-up that such things can happen.
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I've dipped tens of thousands of stamps and have never seen a cancel "bleed" in fluid...and what do you mean by "lengthy period of time"? Just curious.
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Posted 03/16/2015   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Removing hinges from stamps using artist's brush as recommended by revcollector - go to my website;

http://www.stampexpertizing.com;

Click onto "Articles", then go to the bottom of the "bookpile" to find "How to remove hinges from stamps".
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Posted 03/16/2015   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
bill weiss - Thank you. I'll have to give that pressure technique a try. The idea sits better than moisture. That is an interesting 'bookpile'. I can tell I'll be spending some time there. Thank you for sharing.
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Direct link, in case someone wants to save a few seconds:

http://www.stampexpertizing.com/art...gHinges.html
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