Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read








Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Kans./Nebr. - Remove Hinge - Not Disturb Gum?

Next Page    
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 23 / Views: 4,605Next Topic
Page: of 2
Valued Member

United States
189 Posts
Posted 03/14/2015   9:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add walkabout to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Seems that there is a set each of the Kansas and Nebraska overprints. They look to be real (rotary press, 11 x 10 1/2, 14 lines gum, one gum break, colors, well, I'm not good at those, yet.) , but the question applies whether or not. They all have a hinge on the back. Could the hinge be removed safely without disturbing the gum? If so, could someone please tell me how? Also, for stamps that are gummed and have a watermark, is it safe to 'Ronsonol' for the watermark and not disturb the gum?

Thank you for any input.



Send note to Staff

Bedrock Of The Community
United States
10592 Posts
Posted 03/14/2015   10:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The gum indicates that they are genuine. The hinges can be removed using a small artists paintbrush and a LOT of patience, however this requires practice and is not something just done without both it and a steady hand.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
630 Posts
Posted 03/14/2015   10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yakboomer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ronsonol or any watermark fluid is perfectly safe for your stamps.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
189 Posts
Posted 03/14/2015   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
revcollector - Thank you. The hand is still steady but I will have to work on the patience. However, it is nice to know that 'someone' can do it, should they desire. I'm not really sure that is an expected part of my job description on this particular one. I gather that the endeavor would entail moistening the hinge only just enough to have it 'let go' a little bit at a time. I'll see if I can find an overview - with at least a little depth - regarding the different types of adhesives used and how they would react to different fluids.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
189 Posts
Posted 03/14/2015   10:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yakboomer - Thank you. I wish they were my stamps, should I need to use it where there is a concern for the glue. Especially if it is a good stamp with good glue. I think I'm going to have to find some play stamps with which to experiment. However, your reassurance is appreciated.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
6661 Posts
Posted 03/14/2015   11:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the hinges I think it all depends what your intentions are. If you plan on selling them then I would leave them be and let the next owner decide. If I were to keep them I would probably very, very carefully remove them as they will leave a mark so the hinges are not being removed to deceive anyone but rather for preservation purposes.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
189 Posts
Posted 03/14/2015   11:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stallzer - Thank you for your response. I will leave the hinges for the new owner to deal with as they see fit and as fits their situation. It is mainly to know whether they can be removed that I ask. I've not had a lot of experience (basically none) with the gum on stamps and I don't know how it acts and reacts. I'll have to see about getting some info on the adhesives. Thank you, again, for your response.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1545 Posts
Posted 03/15/2015   7:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I Brake For Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The hinges can be removed using a small artists paintbrush


revcollector, could you expand on this method step by step?

If you apply a moistened hinge to the back of a gummed stamp, the glue on the hinge will become "part of" the gum on the back of the stamp, and vice versa. How does this produce the result of a stamp with undisturbed gum?


-IBFS
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
All science is either Physics or Stamp Collecting. -- Ernest Rutherford
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
10592 Posts
Posted 03/15/2015   8:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I never said the gum would be undisturbed, just that the hinge can be removed this way.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
1179 Posts
Posted 03/15/2015   9:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Ronsonol or any watermark fluid is perfectly safe for your stamps.


Safe? Ronsonol is safe, but do not let them sit in the fluid for a lengthy period of time. Make it as short as possible. On one occasion I failed to see how the stamp was cancelled and what ever it was "ran" and discolored the stamp. And before anyone asks, it was a Washington-Franklin issue and no, it was not an aniline dye variety; it only bled where the cancellation was located.

Hal
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
189 Posts
Posted 03/16/2015   02:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hal - That's interesting about the bleed where the cancellation was. Sounds like something in the makeup of the ink for the cancel didn't sit well with the Ronsonol. Thank you for the heads-up that such things can happen.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
578 Posts
Posted 03/16/2015   06:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've dipped tens of thousands of stamps and have never seen a cancel "bleed" in fluid...and what do you mean by "lengthy period of time"? Just curious.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Rest in Peace
United States
763 Posts
Posted 03/16/2015   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bill Weiss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Removing hinges from stamps using artist's brush as recommended by revcollector - go to my website;

http://www.stampexpertizing.com;

Click onto "Articles", then go to the bottom of the "bookpile" to find "How to remove hinges from stamps".
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
189 Posts
Posted 03/16/2015   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
bill weiss - Thank you. I'll have to give that pressure technique a try. The idea sits better than moisture. That is an interesting 'bookpile'. I can tell I'll be spending some time there. Thank you for sharing.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
6661 Posts
Posted 03/16/2015   6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
578 Posts
Posted 03/16/2015   6:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Direct link, in case someone wants to save a few seconds:

http://www.stampexpertizing.com/art...gHinges.html
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Page: of 2 Previous TopicReplies: 23 / Views: 4,605Next Topic  
Next Page
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.

Go to Top of Page

Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2026 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.38 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05