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Is This Great Britain Machin Definitive Photogravure Or Lithography?

 
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Posted 06/22/2024   10:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add superseahorses to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Good Afternoon, I'm new to determining printing methods, needed to organise my GB Machin definitives.



The stamp here is a 2p from the Stanley Gibbons "X" series, and I believe the colour is described as "deep green" in "Collect British Stamps" (CBS). Following the guidance in CBS I'm looking for wavy edge to value. The Value below looks relatively smooth to me so I would think lithography.

My problem is that I believe this should also apply to the solid background as it runs to the white perforation margin; This is obviously composed of dots of ink.

So... I'm confused! What's going one here?

Is it SG X927 (photogravure by Harrison and Sons) or SG X1050 (lithography by Walsall), or is it something else?

Cheers, Dave


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Posted 06/22/2024   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lithograving to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am by no means an expert on Machins but yours looks definitely
printed offset litho.
Below are a couple of my 2p, photogravure on left and lithography
on right.


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Posted 06/23/2024   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add superseahorses to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your reply, lithograving.

I think litho is the conclusion I am leaning towards.

As I understand it, a screen is still needed for the parts of the image that has shading, as you can see over The Queen's portrait. Perhaps the printer decided to fade the edge of background as it approached the perforations, rather than having a sharp edge, requiring a screen and appearance of dots.

Dave
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Posted 04/03/2026   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bringing back this topic.
I had this exact same question as I'm in the X1000's Litho.
Is there always a screen effect in litho?
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Posted 04/11/2026   3:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
superseahorses's stamp is lithographed. There are no tiny streaks of ink to indicate the direction of printing. Also the edges of the numeral aren't ragged, which is the best test.

guykickinit: Welcome to the weird, wild and wonderful world of Machins! I'm not sure I understand what you mean by a "screen effect". If you mean the dots of colour around the edges, I think they may occur both in photogravure and lithography, but are likely to be less fuzzy in lithography. If you're in doubt about any of your stamps, please post high-definition scans.
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Posted 04/11/2026   7:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add guykickinit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The litho on the right looks like a window screen turned 45 degrees. In the bust, not the background. Photo looks like a smoother skin reference.

There was just something about them, that the completionist in me was drawn to.
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