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Is This Real ? Scotts U.s 317 Used

 
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Posted 08/05/2026   7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Lalo.Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Any chance this is real .?.
Scotts U.S 317 Coil Used .?.

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Posted 08/05/2026   7:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect that it is not. The larger size of the image makes the margins look bigger than they actually are.
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Posted 08/05/2026   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add m and m to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The right margin shows evidence of trimmed perfs.
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Posted 08/06/2026   10:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sheetguy2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not that I think the #317 is legit.....
I would like to see the "evidence" of trimmed perfs??
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Posted 08/06/2026   10:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The uneven cuts on both sides is part of it, but the right side is particularly "bumpy".
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Posted 08/06/2026   11:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add No1philatelist to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hold a straight edge to the right side and you can see it has a valley in centre from not being cut straight. Pretty well a sign of trimming.
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Posted Yesterday   08:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sheetguy2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not trying to validate this - I have no skin in the game -
but if the stamp is not FLAT when photo'd it will make
the sided look uneven....just things to consider....
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Sheetguy said:
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Not trying to validate this - I have no skin in the game -
but if the stamp is not FLAT when photo'd it will make
the sided look uneven....just things to consider..


Are you suggesting that the irregular saw-toothed indents on the right are the result of this stamp standing up (curling) off the page? You may not have "skin in the game" but you're arguing for the sake of being contrarian as apposed to taking an objective look at this stamp.

Brian


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If the stamp was not scanned absolutely flat, the uneven curved (not completely straight) margins could be an optical illusion.

Neither margin is exactly straight, nor are they parallel to each other in this photo.

The sawtooth indents on the right are allegedly residue of perforation holes, although I've seen worse. The right margin could be a genuine straight edge with the rough cutting being from a dull blade cutting through the soft paper on that stamp. The sharp cut on the left could be the one that was cut with scissors. Being that both sides have a different appearance is a likely indication that one side or the other is not original.

IMO it would be a waste of $30 to submit this for a certificate, but if you believe it is real and want to gamble, I can't stop you.
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As ZebraMan observes, I think the key features that call in question the authenticity is the difference in left and right sides, where the left side appears to be scizzor cut sharper edges, and the right side *may* be an authentic straight edge cut. They should both be the same type of separation.
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