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2023 Freedem Stamp. Is This Stamp Fake?

 
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Posted 10/17/2026   5:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add OG Style to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Can anyone tell if this is real or not. It's a 2023 Freedom stamp.

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Posted 10/17/2026   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GT350Anny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The USPS text on the white stripe under the canton looks blurry to me. That should be very legible. If you have a shortwave light you should check to see if it glows yellow green. In general if you bought them on FB or ebay at a steep discount they're probably fake.

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Posted 10/17/2026   6:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add OG Style to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if my uv light is the correct wavelength. The stamps originally came from Amazon.
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Posted 10/17/2026   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add OG Style to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if it makes a difference but the 1st stamp on the roll has p111 printed very small on it.
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Posted Yesterday   12:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The first question should be what percentage of face value did you pay?
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Posted Yesterday   11:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add OG Style to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can't really go of what I paid and I don't know what the original price was. The were Amazon overstock or returns.
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Posted Yesterday   11:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes you can.

They are not Chanel swimming trunks.
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Edited by NSK - Yesterday 11:41 am
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Posted Yesterday   1:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you didn't buy them from the USPS and you paid a "bargain" price you get what you paid for. By now even remote tribes in PNG know about the counterfeiting problem.

The original price was the cost of a 2023 Freedom Forever stamp times however many you purchased. You have to know what you paid or can easily look it up on Amazon. I have never heard of Amazon selling overstocked or returned postage stamps.

Something smells like old fish.
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Posted Yesterday   1:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Flightle_Bee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Or Channel swimming trunks, although most travellers use rubber dinghies now.
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Posted Yesterday   6:58 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I have never heard of Amazon selling overstocked or returned postage stamps.


Nor have I, but if you search Amazon for "Forever Stamps" there are many listings, all from third-party marketplace sellers, some even with Prime shipping. Looks like the Facebook scammers have upped their game...
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Edited by revenuecollector - Yesterday 6:59 pm
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Posted Yesterday   7:48 pm  Show Profile Check philatomic's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add philatomic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't know if it makes a difference but the 1st stamp on the roll has p111 printed very small on it.


That P111 plate number should repeat every 31 stamps if the roll is genuine.

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But having a plate number every 31 stamps doesn't guarantee the roll is genuine.
The price of that stamp on its issue date was 63c.

How about providing a link to the item on Amazon.
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Edited by philatomic - Yesterday 9:24 pm
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Posted Yesterday   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Amazon is a glorified Chinese flea market. There was just a story about 55% of their top sellers being from China.

Amazon is the largest seller of counterfeit goods in America, and there isn't even a close second.
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Posted Today  9 Hrs 28 Min ago  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sochummy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like a #5788 CF3

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Posted Today  34 Min ago  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is one area where the Scott Specialized Catalogue is woefully inadequate. By the same token, the amount of labor it would take to make it actually useful for identifying counterfeits, given the sheer number that are listed (with no end in sight), would likely not be profitable for Scott.

What is needed is a visual identifier for each of the listed criteria for each counterfeit, genuine shown at left, counterfeit X shown at right, side by side, using identical blown up scans (1600dpi+) of each.

Having strictly verbal descriptions leaves far too much room for subjectivity. This NEEDS visual display.
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The P111 is every 31 stamps apart. I'm going to scan the stamps.
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