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2023 Freedem Stamp. Is This Stamp Fake?

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Posted Yesterday   8:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampsOnMail to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Any image except from a scanner where the stamp or cover is FLAT, is practically useless in examining details.
Corollary - Any image of item in question without genuine side-by-side in same image, is likewise useless. (Even if a challenge to obtain a "good" one, that is good experience, and should be easier than first thought -- one still on mail also usually works, and this item has been out for almost 3 years. You, family, friends, someone should have some envelopes lying around (e.g., greeting card envelope) with same-looking coil... and it might be a counterfeit, too ... unless you can contact the mailer and find out they did buy their roll at the post office.

Whoever notes the distance between something in one color and something in another color is ignoring the problem of multiple ink registration, for ALL presses, printing genuine or counterfeit items. Never use this as a test.

About " Amazon", hopefully soon enough it will be "common knowledge" that many items they sell, esp. like "postage", is not "Amazon's" business, but third-party. And this nonsense of 'overstock' etc., give me a break -- at today's high (actual) postage cost -- this "we bought too much" has been used at least for 10 years by counterfeits sellers... on ebay ( ebay has tried to shut these listings down), and now Facebook, Amazon, and directly through emails that I find in my Spam folder about once a month.
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Posted Today  15 Hrs 17 Min ago  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rogdcam to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The USPS has an Amazon storefront. You will pay full price. All else is considered fake until proven otherwise.
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I checked with the post office and they are real. They came from a bin store. I paid $8 a roll. I'm going to buy more for $2 a roll today. This is not the first time I have bought stamps from this store. It's few and far in between when the show up. The last time was about 6 years ago. Someone said they found a roll of 1000 then.
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Posted Today  5 Hrs 1 Min ago  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I checked with the post office and they are real.


That confirms nothing as the common USPS window clerks are not trained to ID counterfeits. You will need to provide an example to the US Postal Inspectors for them to give you a factual determination.

However, they, the USPIS advise buying for under face value, at a deep discount, is the largest clue to counterfeits.
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I sent a letter with one and the person received it.
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Posted Today  4 Hrs 52 Min ago  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I sent a letter with one and the person received it.


That does not show it is genuine. Most all counterfeits will pass through the mails.

Only when the volume of use is great enough will the postal inspection service get involved.
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When I went to the post office they took the stamps to the back to check.
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Posted Today  4 Hrs 48 Min ago  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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When I went to the post office they took the stamps to the back to check.


I doubt they had a hidden postal inspector in the back, just a book listing the designs of past US postage stamps. Postal inspectors work from offices identified as a postal inspection office.
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I have no idea who was in the back. I'm just telling you what they did.
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Fact: If you paid $8 for a roll they ARE fake.

Question: You bought it on Amazon or from a "bin store" or a "bin store" on Amazon?
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Posted Today  1 Hr 5 Min ago  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Parcelpostguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm just telling you what they did.


Just telling you you have no reason so far to believe the stamps are not forgeries. You have not provided any verification which proves their validity after purchasing them at a discount from printing sources unknown.

Fake stamps carry mail every day. That is until they don't; then hope it was not your tax, mortgage, car or credit card payment. USPS says they have no obligation to deliver mail with fraudulent stamps NOR an obligation to return the mail matter to the sender.
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