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florian
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Some more stamps by the same printer, this time interpreted by contemporary Slovak engravers and recently issued in Slovakia. Again, shown on http://www.wnsstamps.post/en


Jan Mudroch "Woman in Black Hat", 1940


Cyprian Majernik "Don Quijote", 1943


Master Pavol of Levoca Workshop "Madonna and Child", 16th cent.


Unknown Painter "Coronation of Charles Robert ", Gothic Mural Painting


Tobias Stimmer "Jan Sambucus", 16th cent.


Viera Zilincanova "Music", 1987
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Galeoptix
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Netherlands
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Quote:

Rein - Re-examining my Netherlands and Luxembourg line-engraved stamps printed at Enschedé I did, indeed, detect some suggestions, especially in their simple frames and hollow lettering, of what the Michel catalogue calls Sägezahneffect (saw-tooth effect, the mark of screen printing technique) but never so pronounced as with your Luxembourg S.G. 507.

Now your further comments explain everything. Of course, we have to be aware of the usual trade secrets.

Did Enschedé use a Goebel press for their line-engraved stamps?

Unfortunately, I have never seen images at sharp resolutions of such stamps as Netherlands S.G. C656-C660, C708-C712, 748, 801, C826-C830, 1096 or Luxembourg S.G. C533-C534, 571, 637-639, 661, 695-696, 779-782.

Line-engraved stamps actually fall into different categories depending on the type of press used in their production (and even on their printers' expertise).



Florian,

the Goebel reel-fed rotary presses JESSP had were all [2 of them] for 5-colours photogravure! Last year their last stamps in photogravure got printed. All stamps will be now in offset-litho either sheet-fed on presses like the Heidelberger Speedmaster or MAN Roland or Mitsubishi. Their Müller-Martini does reel-fed printing since 2010 but you hardly see a Dutch stamp printed on that press.

The Banknote division of JESP had KoeBau-Giori presses [probably] as used for the Euro notes.

groetjes, Rein
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florian
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Rein - Thank you for your detailed info.

What press(es) did Enschedé print their engraved stamps on in the 1940's - 1960's?
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nethryk
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Here are images of five more examples of the work of Czech engraver Martin Srb (1954- ), all stamps designed by various artists, and printed by combined engraving and photogravure.

- nethryk

Reindeer-drawn sleigh loaded with presents, designed by A. Born, and issued by Czech Republic on November 8, 1993, Scott No. 2907. Bonuses: Smokers, horned animals, birds, fruit and angels on stamps.


Jan Kubelík (1880-1940), Czech violinist and composer, designed by K. Demel, and issued by Czech Republic on January 19, 1994, Scott No. 2912.


Decorated Christmas tree, designed by A. Khunova, and issued by Czech Republic on November 8, 1995, Scott No. 2976.


Cyclist and map, designed by R. Brun, and issued by Slovakia on May 30, 1996, Scott No. 246.


Guglielmo Marconi (1874-1937), Italian-born radio pioneer, designed by O. Soloa, and issued by Slovakia on April 15, 1997 to commemorate the centenary of radio, Scott No. 269.
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nethryk
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KirkS & canadian - I'm glad that you enjoyed viewing some of my images of Phillip Goodwyn Hall's engraved stamps, posted above on page 110. Also, thanks to canadian for pointing out that Hall was a picture (vignette) engraver.

Sadly, the British Commonwealth is rather poorly represented in my stamp collection. However, in future I will make an effort to sprinkle images of some more of these engraved beauties (KGVI pictorials in particular) in various threads.

- nethryk
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lithograving
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I want to correct an error I made on page 111 regarding the engraver
Karl Wolf when I said :


Quote:
Karl Wolf's engraving career began in 1947 and between 1949 till 1963 he engraved a few stamps for the German Democratic Republic


Wolf actually engraved his first stamp and the first Czechoslovakian
stamp to be printed by way of steel engraving in 1923
A set of 4 semipostals/charity was issued for the 5th Anniversary of the Republic. Scott B133 - B136.

I do not have these stamps in my collection but one is shown on this
well known site called The Stamp Gallery of Czech and Slovak Graphic Art by Gerhard Batz.
http://www.batz-hausen.de/masaryk.htm

There is a brief article about Karl Wolf's career but it's only
in German.
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Galeoptix
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The Netherlands 1956 - Rembrandt





screened and etched!

groetjes, Rein
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Galeoptix
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Netherlands
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he Netherlands 1956 - Rembrandt





screened and etched!

groetjes, Rein
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Galeoptix
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Netherlands
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he Netherlands 1956 - Rembrandt





screened and etched!

groetjes, Rein
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Galeoptix
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he Netherlands 1956 - Rembrandt





screened and etched!

groetjes, Rein
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Galeoptix
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he Netherlands 1956 - Rembrandt





screened and etched!

groetjes, Rein
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lithograving
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Rein, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing, maybe it's the quality of the scans.

Are you saying that the numbers and lettering are screened and the portraits etched?

On the detail you show from the 25c+8c Michel 676, the crosshatched
area doesn't look a lot different from other "normal" engravings
in my opinion.

What I do notice though is a kind of "rough" or "coarse" type of engraving which suits the subjects portrayed.
They are after all based on Rembrandt's etchings.


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lithograving
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In Linn's Stamp News October 2012 issue is an article concerning the 1962 Hammarskjold inverts.
It's a good read written by Kathleen Wunderly but nowhere in the
article are the engravers mentiond.
Engravers just don't get any respect. Does anyone remember Rodney Dangerfield ?

Designer: Herbert Sanborn

Engravers: Charles A. Brooks ( vignette) Kenneth C. Wiram (lettering)

The original on the left Scott 1203 and the reprint Scott 1204




Detail from Scott 1203




Detail from Scott 1204




Here the writer explains what went wrong with the printing which created the inverts.
To me it appears that there was a misuse of the Giori Presses.

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Galeoptix
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Lithograving,



It is a screen and not crosshatching!

The text is also screened!
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AnthonyUK
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I recently bought a very nice collection that included these items (one colour shown).
I believe they were issued in 1949 as part of the centenary of France poste.

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